I am also a bit afraid that the McMurdo is far too warm for our rather mild German winters. It gets barely below -5 centigrade, -10 is already an exception where I life.

I also had the impression that the McMurdo has a very good quality. I often read the opossite online but it felt very high-grade with a lot of functions.

Sadly I had to send it back as Medium was far too big even though I usually wear Large on jackets. Currently waiting on a Small one and then deciding if I will keep it :)

The patagonia website didnt take part in any sales sadly. I found two German web shops that had a 20% discount on Patagonia clothing. The Glacier Parka is sould out unfortunately :/

https://www.stylefile.de/

https://www.funktionelles.de/

Now I ordered the parka once in Medium (brown) and once in Large (black), seeing what fits me better :) also giving this jacket in Large a chance: https://www.eddiebauer.de/herren/jacken/daunenjacken/glacier-peak-daunenjacke-mit-kapuze-herren-schwarz-l.html?sp=2&isVariantId=1

As the prices are only half of what TNF and patagonia are I am curious about the quality of EB :)

Looks really similar to the other parkas in terms of specs :) seems to be sold out in Medium in the good colors though :/ lets see if I can get one in Medium

Oh, thats sad :(

I thought this was the biggest advantage of the McMurdo but without being fully waterproof there is no reason to pay 50€ more.

Good hint, thanks! :)

Thanks! I think with Patagonia's mindeset on warranty it is decided for me. I would like to keep that Parka for as long as possible and this is where Patagonia clearly wins :)