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hatchway t1_isyq3a5 wrote
Reply to comment by remi_pan in Phantom Forests: Why Ambitious Tree Planting Projects Are Failing by filosoful
The Hidden Lives of Trees dives deeper into the mechanics of forest ecology and this is 100% in agreement with its insights.
One of the issues to be aware of with allowing re-growth, though, is that certain species tend to absolutely dominate in clear-cut situations, so you need to selectively harvest to allow partial shade to exist.
Douglas Fir, for example, grows super-fast in sunlight, so most second-growth forest you see around here (western Washington) is like 60-95% Doug. Monoculture forests are bad because insects and diseases can jump from tree to tree much more easily, and different species accommodate different environment conditions better (allowing a portion of the forest to hold groundwater during droughts, for example).
However, this is better than no trees, and the issue generally solves itself overtime as species that grow better in shade (hemlock, maple, cedar) start to sprout and grow to full size, giving a diverse forest.
Just need to be careful, because sun-grown Dougs (and many other trees) are softer and spongier than shade-grown counterparts. Far less resistant to fire, bugs, and fungus... meaning there's a decent chance a careless accident can destroy a second-growth Doug-dominant forest before other species have the chance to start sharing the space. (Forest Dreams, Forest Nightmares covers forest succession as it applies to PNW forestry and it's fascinating, if a little more dense and academic)
Despite those caveats, this approach is still superior to planting baby trees raised in greenhouses and utterly lacking an "immune system" for the soil and climate in the particular spot they're planted.
Clearly I have a lot to say on this, but I'm too stupid to be a scientist and too lazy to podcast, so I'm stuck making Reddit comments.
hatchway t1_isyo60y wrote
Reply to comment by [deleted] in Phantom Forests: Why Ambitious Tree Planting Projects Are Failing by filosoful
Correct! I figure I can accelerate one without risking the others. Accelerating two strongly risks the third.
I'm fairly handy with tools, materials, and software so DIY is my version of "cheap and quality". Still can't be too slow, though, or it risks household tension from too many unfinished tasks (lol)
hatchway t1_isw3qso wrote
Reply to comment by Bewaretheicespiders in Phantom Forests: Why Ambitious Tree Planting Projects Are Failing by filosoful
Gardener / urban farmer here. You can't just put a random baby tree in dirt and expect it to thrive, especially with heavily depleted or polluted soil (which I imagine they're planting in). Baby trees are also extremely sensitive to changes in temperature and humidity, to the extent that about 3/4 of the ones I plant are guaranteed to die without continuous attention. Not possible for a whole forest.
The answer isn't to plant baby trees - it's to spread tree seeds, if possible with mulch and light tilling / harrowing. In my experience, plants that grow from seed have a much better chance in a low care / unsupervised situation, because they'lll adapt to the surrounding moisture, fertility, PH balance, and micro-organisms right from sprouting.
hatchway t1_isw14n0 wrote
Reply to comment by Prince_Ire in Phantom Forests: Why Ambitious Tree Planting Projects Are Failing by filosoful
In project management we have a principle that you can generally only prioritize one out of speed, quality, or budget. A good, experienced project team can get you two of them, while a miracle can get you all three.
hatchway t1_ishbbvz wrote
Reply to [Image] "I learned that courage was not the absence of fear, but the triumph over it. The brave man is not he who does not feel afraid, but he who conquers that fear." ~ Nelson Mandela by Butterflies_Books
Actual courage requires fear to exist. Pretty sure the total absence of fear is a mental condition.
hatchway t1_isz2obr wrote
Reply to comment by [deleted] in Phantom Forests: Why Ambitious Tree Planting Projects Are Failing by filosoful
Good rule of thumb. I buy nicer stuff when I can, because a nice pair of pliers or garden trowel (for example) will likely outlive me, while a cheap one will need to be replaced every 2-5 years.