jimtoberfest

jimtoberfest t1_jaxra73 wrote

Reply to comment by pierebean in [OC] Wind Speed Vs Wind Power by Barra79

This. +1. The wind speed is not uniform across the disc area of turbines. You need wind speed at several points in height. Although not sure what OP is really trying to determine here just avg power v wind speed but fit looks poor at lower end.

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jimtoberfest t1_iqtfevi wrote

Doesn’t change the fact the plane was profitable. If some company goes bust and I buy their assets at a discount and make a working business model- it’s still profitable.

In this case how realistic was it to think a commercial plane designed and built like a multi national fighter was going to come in on cost and on budget? Has that ever happened in a large scale govt aviation project?

The point was the graph concludes it’s not profitable because of fuel consumption which is not true.

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jimtoberfest t1_iqt9uom wrote

They didn’t pay development costs but one could largely say that for many airframes including the A380. It’s airframe dev costs were subsidized as well.

In Concordes case it also didn’t get sold to as many customers who initially wanted it or even throughout its life. Not sure if it was British or French govt who limited its sales.

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jimtoberfest t1_iqt21hd wrote

The chart may be accurate but the conclusion is not and should be removed. Concorde was profitable for both BA and Air France. It was more profitable and in higher demand once retirement was announced. Virgin tried to buy them but for whatever reason was denied.

The real issue was it was getting old and during financial hard times around 2000 and post 9/11 Airbus effectively stopped making replacement parts.

What was needed were new airframes and a successor but that never materialized for a host of reasons in the aviation industry. But clearly there is a market for a new version, especially in the pacific operations zone.

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