leechmeem
leechmeem t1_j54jbn0 wrote
Reply to comment by rixtil41 in Instead of escaping to virtual realities, what if we just made our reality as good as any virtual reality could be? by [deleted]
>Who cares if it's all pretend?
I guess that's just my personal idea. I would want my accomplishments to matter. If your accomplishments only matter to you in a mental and non-phsyical sense, then is it an accomplishment? Or do you just simply "not care"? I don't like this idea of blissful ignorance. I really don't think it will make anyone feel fulfilled in themselves.
If you mean expressing yourself as in socially, then yes a lot people do have trouble with that. That's why people go on the internet. I understand your viewpoint, though. People can manifest accomplishment in their own mind, but as if you are spending time living your life in an online chatroom, and one day you get banned from said chatroom, its addictive properties still linger while you sit with the sinking realization that THAT was your life for a period of time you just wasted. I do see virtual stuff like this as some sort of ecstasy or dopamine drug. You then realize anything you have accomplished just didn't really matter. I think this would occur if you were to abuse simulation like this.
leechmeem t1_j54gjnd wrote
Reply to comment by EnomLee in Instead of escaping to virtual realities, what if we just made our reality as good as any virtual reality could be? by [deleted]
I believe a 'virtual safe space' wouldn't solve any ideological ,religious or political conflict, at all. Those conflicting would know their adversaries' world exist, and because of this awareness, they wouldn't feel content in their personalized landscape, because they know its not the objective reality, they know that whatever idea they try enforcing on the people in their world will not matter. This matter isn't about your fursona, or that you want to be a goddess dragon lord or anime girl or alike. They want a real world to control. They can and will find a way to implement war and violence in a more mental manner. Hijacking one's world to trap them in and give them a personalized hell seems likely to me.
People will always conflict in opinions. We are argumentative in ideas and everything on the internet at this very second, and violent people have found a way to make other people on the internet suffer in their real worlds, all because they don't agree. Why wouldn't this happen in an even more personal experience? In a conceptual future, if everyone has a virtual world, it would become the norm and we would be back to invading each other again, just like how we invade countries.
The sad truth is there will never be paradise, anywhere. Even in your conceived paradise, you most likely won't feel happy and be back to yearning for blissful ignorance once the façade starts disappearing.
leechmeem t1_j54faqr wrote
Reply to comment by rixtil41 in Instead of escaping to virtual realities, what if we just made our reality as good as any virtual reality could be? by [deleted]
Won't there be a point where they lose satisfaction with their fantasy reality? What then? It just seems like everything in a virtual reality will be one big roleplay, instead of actually feeling truly yourself. I'm under belief this would fluctuate the mental disease of psychosis and depression. There's nothing wrong with a game of pretend, we did it as kids and we do it with VR. But that's all there is to it- pretend.
leechmeem t1_j54dxh6 wrote
Reply to comment by sticky_symbols in Instead of escaping to virtual realities, what if we just made our reality as good as any virtual reality could be? by [deleted]
You can't tell the difference, but you know it's not the objective reality? Would it really make anyone content with their lives?
Like the other guy said, we don't know if we are in a simulation or not. I believe that's why we even bother to subconsciously assign meaning to anything at all. Will we only delude ourselves to give meaning to something that doesn't fundamentally matter, just to cater to our escapism? People in games like VRChat can have any body they want, anime, some movie character, whatever. But, when you take the VR headset off, you realize that it wasn't objectively you, and it will never objectively be you.
There are people out there that struggle with differentiating fantasy from reality, so will this really be a good thing?
I am not very particularly enlightened on this subject, so I will continue to read what other people think about the whole thing. I just wanted to throw this out there.
leechmeem t1_j56dhud wrote
Reply to comment by sticky_symbols in Instead of escaping to virtual realities, what if we just made our reality as good as any virtual reality could be? by [deleted]
I think it's fine if you want to give your personalized reality meaning, it's just you shouldn't put it on a higher pedestal over the base reality. You play an MMO, you spend lots of time grinding in the game and you are satisfied, but it doesn't affect the reality you were born into. When the game shuts off, you go on with your day realizing that it never really had an impact on anything at all. If you decide to live most of your life in a virtual reality, what then if the game breaks or corrupts? Is it more reliable still?
If our internal feelings are only positive when we live in a virtual world and remain negative in the base reality, isn't that how addiction starts? Isn't that why we get addicted to meth, heroin, pcp? We'd only be lowering our desire to live in our base reality and change ourselves for the better for the favor of something you or someone else has created to live in. But on the other hand, our virtual realities can affect our base reality and make us better people in the base reality? It's very hard to say, and this question can't really be answered yet.
My belief is, you can play the game and have fun, but if you take the game too seriously, it'll leave you angry and disappointed.