Seven hours left? So you’re not even reading it but listening?

With YA books you can usually take the rating and subtract 3.00 to end up with a realistic rating.

This subreddit needs an overdone topics list so badly.

Thought it was great, absolutely hate most discussions of it though. Because it just boils down to ''DAE holden spoiled, whiny annoying??'' which I honestly can get if your only reading of it was a 16 y.o. high schooler, but for some incomprehensible reason that are adults that reach the same conclusion.

You don't have to like him nor the book, I think Salinger was very aware that Holden would not come off as a likable character (shocker that good writers knows a good novel doesn't need a likable character) and if his writing doesn't appeal to you it's fair and just a matter of taste at that point. However, does Salinger need to beat you over the head with the reasons Holden acts the way he does?

I just cannot imagine reading hearing about someone was traumatized as he is and in the midst of a breakdown and identity crisis, and somehow go ''whiny brat''. I know you're a teenager, you were sexually abused, you lost your younger brother, you witnessed a classmate kill himself, you had hints of suicidal thoughts, you were betrayed and almost molested by one of the few people you thought you could trust -- all as a teenager by the way -- but man I don't like your average teenager attitude so you're just a whiny spoiled brat I guess..

Easiest to spot red flag with someone as a reader is just mentioning this book or Holden and see what they say.