oratory1990

oratory1990 t1_ivmuaad wrote

ah my bad, I misinterpreted your comment to mean "it has a DAC, so it can use DSP".

But what you said was that since the USB-C connection can be digital, this allows to put digital devices (like a DSP) in between the USB connector and the analog connection to the headphone.
Which is correct of course.

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oratory1990 t1_isf3e5j wrote

> First i tought most people would rather have bassy gear like Bose or Beats.

Most people buy after the brand name, not after sound quality - even though they sometimes follow what they think a certain brand promises in sound.
Few people are save from that - yourself (no disrespect to you, I'm sure you are a good listener) being not excempt either: Both Bose and Beats have made bass-light products! Yet the myth that "bose = bass" and of course "beats = bass" persists (not entirely unfounded eiher of course)

> A quick search showed me that the most sold earpiece was apparently the airpods (i couldn't fact-check), which have a treble bias.

Most likely not because of sound quality though, but because of the ease of use and also the brand name, as you said yourself:

> To me it only show that people react more to brand recognition and/or to the "fashion" element of their gear.

> But whether most people would rather want unbiased gear or not is left to be proven.

There's been quite a lot of research on that matter actually, plenty of controlled listening tests having been done with different ways of formulating essentially the same question: Do people prefer unbiased/"good"/neutral/uncolored sound, or have they gotten used to something else?
In general, most research (that I'm aware of) does in fact point towards the average person preferring what would be considered "good" sound (neutral, uncompressed, uncolored, ...) - as long as they're given the option.

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oratory1990 t1_iset0i5 wrote

> neutral sound means that all frequencies are perceived at the same volume. i.e the sound doesn't lean toward one nor in the other direction.

That's exactly it though - you get a rotary button to control the amount of bass, and you get asked to dial it in until it sounds correct, as in "it sounds the way it should sound".
You repeat this with many, many people go get a meaningful average.

"neutral" does not mean "flat on a measurement".

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oratory1990 t1_isbtjed wrote

> Harmon, Ief neutral,. .. can be thought as some widely popular neutral colors like Navy and khaki.

That comparison falls flat, because the question is not "tell me a neutral color" (for colors) or "tell me a neutral amount of bass" (for sound).

The question that the research answered was: "here's a control wheel, dial in the amount of bass that sounds correct while listening to music".
Which is the equivalent of: "here's a control wheel to control the amount of yellow in this picture of a sunflower, dial in the amount of yellow until it looks correct to you".

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oratory1990 t1_isa21uv wrote

> it still isn’t neutral because the bass and treble are amplified.

That's hypothetical, because the preferred sound of most people is not V-shaped (when given the option).

The word "neutral" comes from latin "ne utrum", meaning "neither of both".
In this context it refers to "neither too little nor too much".

If the average person (in a properly conducted listening test, which is hard to do) prefers a sound, then by definition it is neutrum, meaning it leans neither in one direction nor in the other direction.

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oratory1990 t1_irhwha9 wrote

they're all open-back. Out of the box I prefer the HD560S, they come the closest to what I consider neutral sound, at least out of those three. But when using them with EQ, those differences become miniscule.
However in terms of comfort, the NDH30 and DT900X both beat it, the HD5xx-shape just doesn't completely fit my head.

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