There's a profound point here that people are afraid of being forgotten, yet by this very analogy if we are largely the result of those we interact with "painting" us then there must exist an unbroken line of "paintings" back to the earliest social life forms.

Our.parents were "painted" by their loved ones including their parents, and the "paint" that they used in turn came from their own parents and friends, and so on.

So society in a sense is the buildup of "paint" across the ages creating certain patterns.

This post is fantastic and I'll come back to it periodically for a refresher.

One thing I do notice though is nearly half of the original 7 objectifying behaviors are fundamental to how we operate as a society. If I hire a plumber I'm focused on the sociological role rather than them as a person and its likely that I'll to some extent treat them as an instrument (I hired you to do a specific job), as fungible (I can hire another if you aren't working out), and to some extent as if they have no autonomy or agency, and even not much concern for their feelings.

Don't get me wrong, I absolutely think of them as people and won't consciously treat them these ways. But the plumber or electrician is in another room while I'm working on something and I'm not interested in his personal life I'm interested in my needs which is why I hired him. I'll still treat him with respect but at the end of the day they are hired to do a job, not to tell their life story or decide halfway through the job they don't want to finish and instead want to wander around or something.

This is in line with the gemeinschaft vs gesellschaft evolution of society though so I think to some extent this role based treatment is necessary for society to function. So objectification seems to be context dependent I suppose.

The trick is to always remember they are human and not actually treat them like objects or servants, but rather as very skilled professionals who are providing us with valued services. And some people forget that unfortunately.

You may misunderstand. You default to cooperation and then respond if you are harmed but self correct to avoid it spiraling out of control.

See this simulation for details.

https://ncase.me/trust/

Yeah we went first two weeks of November through the whole grand circle. Grand canyon got bitter cold with the wind but it was tolerable. Arches was amazing.

Everyone talks about the Arches but Panorama Point is the best spot in the park.

Plus there's an absolutely beautiful arch at Bryce right on the road. Especially with the red Rock dusted in snow.

Few months ago we drove the whole loop: GC, Monument Valley, Arches, Canyonlands, Goblin Valley, Capitol Reef, Scenic Hwy 12 Torrey to Bryce along Grand Staircase Escalante, through Bryce and Zion.

Even without hiking (limited time and bucket list epic road trip) the sights were absolutely breathtaking.

The Bryce with snow had some absolutely stunning beauty.

For anyone thinking about going to these places just do it. Photos don't even begin to describe the sense of awe from being surrounded by these views on all sides.

Haha oh yeah it did look familiar lol!

Yeah we recently did the "Grand Circle" in late fall and it was incredible.

Epic road trip:

• Grand Canyon
• Monument Valley
• Mexican Hat
• Arches
• Canyonlands
• Goblin Valley
• Capitol Reef
• Scenic Hwy 12 from Torrey down along the edge of Grand Staircase Escalante
• Up through Bryce
• Down into Zion

We previously had done Valley of Fire a few months earlier also.

Zion is stunning and was a fantastic way to end the trip. After all of that vast expanse, being cradled in the valley with the yellow leaves blowing felt mystical.

But yeah the sheer mind boggling beauty of those parks can't be put into words. Even pictures fail.

For example, in Arches at Panorama Point you are essentially surrounded with an absolutely incredible landscape painting with amazing cliffs off the left of center from the mountain. But photos at Panorama point typically only focus on the right hand view and absolutely fail to show the overwhelming sense of beauty there.

Zion is my favorite park (so far) but Panorama Point at Arches is my favorite spot.

Edit Oh shit just after writing that I did another search and someone had actually posted a true sunset panorama from Panorama Point! This is what it looked like when we were there, but again imagine seeing this all around you instead of on your tiny phone.

https://i.redd.it/jg3192b2g4l41.jpg

Not true, you are consciously thinking "type these words" but your unconscious mind coordinates all the various tendon movements needed to actually make the typing happen.

Your conscious mind is delegating the vast majority of the work to the unconscious mind which uses proprioception heavily to carry out the task.

Proprioception isn't about communicating to your conscious mind where your foot is positioned. It's about your cerebellum and CNS working together to coordinate your foot position so it stabilizes you in your current situation without having to consciously think about it.

It's not about you being able to always know where it is but rather trusting that it is keeping you from falling and that you can quickly put it into another position without having to think about it at all.

Your body "knows when it needs to be awake" because you've routinely woken at that time and programmed your internal biological clock to wake at that time.

It detects changes in temperature, air pressure etc that occur at that time. That's how it is triggered.

No it only involves touch once your finger reaches your hand.

The sense of touch is not "reach out and touch someone" it's the sensation you feel when someone touches you.

When you reach out to touch your hand without looking the only way that happens is through your body's innate way of detecting the position of your body and all your limbs in 3D space and coordinating the work of many muscles to make that action occur.

That's the sixth sense of proprioception.

And never faced persecution for speaking his "truth."