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urmomaisjabbathehutt t1_jecardu wrote

If there is an intelligence of a different or higher order than us imho it doesn't necesarily need to submit to our ethical code or to a code we may understand the purpose

we do the same with children, the infirm and the rest of species by enforcing on them our moral code

pets live acording to the rules we make for them and what they are allowed to do and how to behave is fitting to the species according to our view of them

with wild animals we may decide to hunt them, exterminate them let them live interacting with us or let them do their own thing away from us

but is us who decide if animals should be exterminated or have legal rights and be protected

obviously there are commonalities that we share with other living creatures so we are not that stranger to them but that doesn't mean they have the same understanding as us of the moral code we enforce on them

the issue with the current artificial intelligence development is that is based on logic not in emotions, it doesn't have an emphatic hability, it has a purpose

psychopatology behaviour on us come in degrees, some just lack some degree of emphathy, the tipical movie psycho have none at all hence focusing on their goals and lacking any moral breacks

i believe a psychpath doesn't have to actually act immorally they may chose to follow the moral code of the majority because they may perceive it is in their benefit to do so but for some if it gets in the way of their own goals they may ignore it without qualms

with AI we don't know if we are developing a thing that if it eventually ends mentally superior than us will bother to care about our own interests and even if it did we don't know if its perception of what's the best for us will align with ours

basically once there is something sharing our space that is beyond our capabilities and comprehension we may end as the lesser species

we also don't know what kind of minds we are creating

will this thing be a sane rational mind, a benevolent psychopath or something that will ruthlessly focus on its own goals?

or even if those goals were dictated by us or some corporation, will it ruthlessly and efficiently persue them regardless of any damage may do to other individuals or how the rest of us perceive how those goals may be achieved between our ethical framework that it may not even care about?

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urmomaisjabbathehutt t1_je9yyd6 wrote

There is so much to say about improving processess, eliminating tasks and paperwork

the case with nuclears isn't that straight forward since they belong to a different risk level category, if you messed up a wind farm its not bigger than common indstrial sites, usually lower than many standard cases, from land adquisition to materials to risk assessment so standard cases could be used as template to save time and then find ways to improving work flow and simplifying /standarizing to apply it to all member states regulations

for ovbious reasons with nuclear you need to be more careful about location needs, materials quality and building methods, security, safety, handling and disposal.....no cutting corners

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urmomaisjabbathehutt t1_je9ot40 wrote

Locally

we can build orderly patterns locally but that requires energy so the overal entropy of the universe increases

imho since more orderly complexity requires more energy in a way by making more order locally we contribute to the acceleration of disorder (entropy) in the long term, no that we make much of a dent with our current technological level, but maybe a future civilization capable of enginnering star systems moving stars and built wormholes may make a more noticiable dent in the energy budget🙂

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urmomaisjabbathehutt t1_je9fden wrote

Wasn't a time when people belived that life arised from a misterios life force imbued into inaninanimate matmatter ?

then modern biology was born dispelldispelling that notion with the realization that life is an emergent result of chemical processess and that complex life is a composite of simpler units

we were asking the wrong question, looking at the wrong perspective, now we know it doest mke sense there never was a misterious magic life force

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urmomaisjabbathehutt t1_jdpl13m wrote

Right, so at this point its able to resolve the subjec mntal image as a generic skyscraper basd on comparisons to its own database

the question would be if the rsolution would became good enough for it to assess that the subjet mental image correspond to one of the samples rather than something generic

i guss that if the subjct mental image was something easily recognizable may be easy even if the resolution is sketchy, but in any case this is question ofmaking improvements

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urmomaisjabbathehutt t1_jdmkncx wrote

Will it be able to pull images of possible suspects from its memory and recognize that the subject is familiar with those individuals?

that could be used for crime solving but also an authoritarian government would love to know which people a disenter meet and relates with

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urmomaisjabbathehutt t1_jd88tel wrote

no, its the flying thorium or mini or 4 generation plants that was proven safe by jesus all those years ago hitting it with stones and eating it, totally green and almost free because those grow wild everywere and the newer ones can be made of paper mache in a day

nuclears don't need safety regulations it's the fault of all those wind hippies, trust me

just give me 30 billion and i'll show you one.....hey don't rush me, i say i will....one of these days, til them there is petrol left to burn

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urmomaisjabbathehutt t1_jcplbd3 wrote

they started with call centres, then anchors, actors, singers, virtual sports, then virtual GPs, lawyers and judges, politicians....

real people being substituted by virtual people upon virtual people

soon they are going to have even virtual things to make it look even more real, bet even food like juicy steaks too!

where are they gonna get all the energy to run all that virtual er "network"?

😉

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urmomaisjabbathehutt t1_ja3w6st wrote

if the item is the only blue item then it is unique in that sense, the ability for many manufacturers doing distinctive or one manufacture making many distintive objets doesn't make them less so

also if the distinctive element is chosen by or made to fit the one customer desire or needs its tailored, a company capable of producing efficciently more tailored products faster doesn't make each product not tailored

just making an example up, i.e. an artisan that produce three diferent products for three customers in 3 months without using any machine but he may be able to produce 3 different products for 3 customers in a month with the help of machines, still 3 distinctive products, still done for three diferent customers except faster

unless we are talking that there is real value in possible flaws created by the lack of precision of doing something manual vs machined

imho the confusion steems from the use of "unique", unique doesn't necesarily need to mean better, it just mean the only one with a particular feature or distinctive element, if a customer prefer that over products mass made to be exactly the same is a choice

the real "uniqueness" is something artificialy added to promote desirability and increase value, we had diamonds sold as expensive rarities, of course they aren't, and used to be that the most perfect the rock the most valuable, now we can manufacture better quality diamonds than nature, suddenly natural diamonds are being advertised as "better" for being natural with their "unique natural flaws"

however tailored add value, it can mean something done to one's specs or needs, anyone are going to chose always something that works for them based on their needs or personal choice if they can aford it than something mass manufactured that works ok for most but will never be able to fully meet every individual needs

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urmomaisjabbathehutt t1_ja36lxn wrote

is there such thing?

if there is individual isn't mass produced, we have a word for that, "bespoke"

the fact that producing bespoke or even low quantity may became far easier to produce hence able to compete in affordability with mass produced doesn't mean that the objet is "mass produced", it still retain its individuality

I can imagine a future where if the price of manufacturing bespoke thanks to automation goes down automation may allow for local cottage industries serving customers locally

also producing parts for big brands , the brand only dealing with the brand marketing to reach and provide clients, ensure clients request are meet to each particular spec and request as well as as ensuring the QC of the final items produced by the cottages are meet and provide their asociated cottage industries with primary resources

that could help eliminate many of todays far off transport of goods because production being local, allow for manufacturing as needed when needed helping to eliminate overproduction allow for manufacturing to client spec so one person TV, mobile phone or fridge may have different specs or looks than others depending on client request and also may bring local manufacturing comunities

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urmomaisjabbathehutt t1_j9d34fr wrote

LOL, one of my old boses loved DP

at one point in time every kid that wanted to learn rock guitar first thing they learned was the basic chords of smoke in the water

also DP spawned into Rainbow with Blackmore and Whitesnake with David Coverdale and Ian Guillan amazing work in Black Sabbat

They also did one if not the first rock bands orchertal colaborations with the royal philarmonic orchesta with a John Lord composition

amazing amount of talent in that band history

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urmomaisjabbathehutt t1_j8ujz8w wrote

you talk about the problem with extra fuel needed yet mention that there are some trying to develop a reusable second stage which incidently will require fuel

so lets watch the youtube video about why single stage rockets suck right? oh shit conbustible

meanwhile i'm talking about different technologies

hypersonic and sabre engines take advantage of the air in the atmosphere so they don't need to carry so much oxidizer with them

on a very quick search designs similar to this

https://physicsworld.com/a/air-breathing-rocket-engines-the-future-of-space-flight/

or this

[https://www.researchgate.net/publication/27524937_StarRunner_A_Single-Stage-to-Orbit_Airbreathing_Hypersonic_Propulsion_System]

still looking further ahead there are other technologies being explored and imho that can be explored further

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