Goldie1822 OP t1_jaqs9ia wrote on March 3, 2023 at 11:31 AM

Reply to comment by Chakramer in LAPTOP?! Yes, laptop. Framework, specifically. by Goldie1822

This is why you can upgrade the internals as needed. That’s the concept of the company.

I feel like your post is one of someone that just reads the headline of something but not the article.

Chakramer t1_jaqwrnu wrote on March 3, 2023 at 12:21 PM

I am very familiar with the framework laptop

I just don't think laptops go obsolete fast enough that this is the laptop for most people.

JohnDoeMTB120 t1_jarahxl wrote on March 3, 2023 at 2:22 PM

Won't literally everything have to be upgraded eventually though? Maybe not the shell and screen, but everything else. Even the motherboard will have to be upgraded eventually.

Goldie1822 OP t1_jarb91f wrote on March 3, 2023 at 2:28 PM

That’s the point, yes, and instead of buying a whole new computer you can replace the obsolete parts. Even down to the chassis.

JohnDoeMTB120 t1_jarcom8 wrote on March 3, 2023 at 2:40 PM

Right. I understand the appeal of only replacing the parts that need to be replaced when they need to be replaced. I just don't really consider it BIFL when ultimately every part will be replaced.

Walkop t1_jarfl9f wrote on March 3, 2023 at 3:01 PM

What is buy it for life, then? Only things that never break? Repairability is a big factor, most things that are by it for life require maintenance. Look at boots, any high quality boot in this sub will require regular maintenance, resoling, all sorts of things in order to keep it buy it for life item.

JohnDoeMTB120 t1_jarm4wk wrote on March 3, 2023 at 3:45 PM

I think there's a difference between maintaining something and replacing a part every now and then (resoling a boot for example) vs. replacing literally every part over time so that eventually there are zero parts of the computer that are from the original purchase. Just my 2 cents, but I don't think computers are BIFL. Technology advances too quickly and makes every part in the computer obsolete in 10-15 years.

zombienudist t1_jarxr2i wrote on March 3, 2023 at 5:01 PM

And that is why many people don't see boots as buy it for life. But the difference is the repairs the boot will need to keep them functioning. A boot might require a heel in 7 years. You understand it would be very strange to have a boot where every single component has been replaced. That is just a new pair of boots made over a longer period of time. The only benefit to doing something like that is if you get way longer out of the product, or save money/the environment. In the case of boots I can wear them for 7 years, do a resole, and wear them for another 7. And depending on how much you use them you can have boots decades later you are still use. For example I have a pair of boots made in 1984 but not a computer that is even close to that old. There is no way to keep that kind of old tech running for that long in a useable way.