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TEKC0R OP t1_jed181g wrote

Reply to comment by jrmtpc in The Sonic in Manchester is going downhill fast by TEKC0R

Are they owned by the same person? I suspect the franchisee is one of those “nobody wants to work” types.

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Light_of_the_Star t1_jedej6n wrote

These "nobody wants to work" types just kill me lol. They will be the very first to complain when they are not getting served or when places are shutting down at weird hours. If you don't want to work for anyone, no one will want to work for you either 🤷‍♀️

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interiorcrocodemon t1_jeed6tp wrote

They never finish the sentence "for peanuts"

You could offer me a $10/hr raise to do fast food and I'd pass.

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hillarysabortedson t1_jeekii4 wrote

But…you just described the location as though it was full of employees that don’t want to work. You didn’t even get your food.

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TEKC0R OP t1_jeel299 wrote

Not sure what you’re talking about. Somebody complaining that nobody wants to work is paying minimum wage and surprised they can’t find people to hire.

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hillarysabortedson t1_jeema3z wrote

Per your own description, the franchise owner has literally staffed their location with people that don’t want to work (eg, you waited 25 minutes and never got fed).

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TEKC0R OP t1_jeenkmr wrote

They have staffed their location with as many people willing to accept minimum wage as they can find. That’s… not a lot. I don’t know how many that was, I can only be certain there was at least one there.

Not wanting to work is different from quiet quitting. Quiet quitting is showing up and doing the bare minimum or less, but still getting paid, which seems to be what you’re suggesting. Not wanting to work is not accepting (or leaving) a job that is underpaid. Expenses have gone up dramatically, but wages have not, so it’s become much harder to find people willing to work at $15 per hour.

The franchisee could solve this problem by paying better. I guarantee they’d find good staff for the right price. I used to this stuff. It’s easy to build a good staff if you pay them well and treat them with respect. The trouble is they need the sales to afford the staff, which they’ve already torpedoed by having such shitty staff. They’re in a death spiral now. Best case scenario, Sonic terminates the franchisee’s license and sells it to somebody else. Worst case, it just shuts down entirely. But based on the response from corporate I got, they couldn’t care less either.

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essaitchthrowaway3 t1_jef0vrp wrote

I've seen Wendys and McDonalds with starting wages at $15/hr, so Sonic can't be that different.

Don't give me this crap that a starting wage that high is tantamount to slave labor like so many people online like to pretend it is. You are making up this theory in your head that the owner is one of those "nobody wants to work" types and then acting like $15/hr is anything but a damn decent wage for the skill of the workers needed.

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TEKC0R OP t1_jef1wtp wrote

In CT? At 40 hours per week, which you'll never get since scheduling always avoids that so they don't risk overtime, that is just $32k per year. The average apartment rent is more than half of that. $15 per hour is not a living wage by any stretch of the imagination.

It has nothing to do with skill and everything to do with the work that needs to be done. If we want people to do these jobs, we need to pay them for their time. There will always be jobs that are easier than others, but a) time doesn't care and b) food service is not easy. It's easy to teach, but it is not easy.

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essaitchthrowaway3 t1_jef3hw0 wrote

Tell me you get all your news and opinions from Reddit, without telling me you get all your news and opinions from Reddit.

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thomisnotmydad t1_jef3aat wrote

Minimum wage isn’t based on skill, it’s meant to reflect (at minimum) how much money is required to maintain a defined minimum standard of living with that single income so that people who have jobs arent in poverty, even on the lowest rung of the totem pole.

Inflation go brrr, minimum wage must increase

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jarfin542 t1_jefezd5 wrote

$15/hr is not a living wage. Maybe if you live at your parent's house and it's a part time wage for a kid in tech school or high school, but there is no way that a person can pay rent, afford a vehicle and insurance, pay for the bare minimum of healthcare, and provide themselves with food in this state, or any other. The system is broken.

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ellemenopeaqu t1_jefj7bl wrote

My aunt works at a daycare. She's lost multiple coworkers because they can get more flexible hours and better pay at McDonalds ($16-17/hr).

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essaitchthrowaway3 t1_jefmb8f wrote

It isn't just those kind of companies. Lots of other smaller businesses can't compete with the wages offered by some fastfood establishments.

Yet the same people in here who will state "oh, well just give those people more money to stay!" will also cry when their child daycare costs become even more. But they'll probably blame the "rich" owners for hogging all the money, even though in many cases daycare companies are mom and pop operations running on a shoestring budget.

The echo chamber in here is hilarious. Clueless and out of touch, but hilarious none the less.

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Mooselickle t1_jefd37f wrote

The quality of most minimum wage fast food chains have dropped dramatically in the last few years, atleast in my eyes. I think they’re too much of a revolving door nowadays for anyone to care about the job. I used to see the same faces at Dunkin Donuts or wherever, now it’s different each time

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