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MikeSCARN95 t1_irb0pus wrote

>pull their kids from classes and send them to a private school of thier choosing, home school them, or have them excused from the class

Which is extremely difficult, if not impossible for the majority of lower to middle class homes, considering the majority of property taxes they pay (with homeownership) go the education system. If that money was freed for the ones who opt out this might actually be a valid option.

>at their own kids detriment

The problem that persists in all your responses is that your stating your opinion as fact. I'm trying to come from a neutral standpoint here and simply explain the other side of the argument without personal feelings on the issue.

>taken a very anti intellectualism stance.

I will assume your pointing to the vaccine debate as stated in your last reply. To that (and applied to other topics) there has been a seriously misguided conflating of a multitude of opinions. People having hesitancy on a rapidly deployed, new vaccine for a new virus isn't anti intellectual. There are plenty of opinions and concerns that lie in the middle of "take every shit available without question" and "vaccines bad and have nanochips (or insert some other conspiracy theory)" that are perfectly valid and are side lined as extreme. Using this as an example as why parents should support sex education because they clearly aren't smart enough is flawed at the most basic level of debate.

>Furthermore education is one of the easiest ways to improve ones socioeconomic status, and it creates more competition for the“elites” of our society, as well an educated society start to challenge those ruling classes, especially the status quo that they handed down to the lower classes to accept.

I don't disagree. There are more ways than one to skin a cat, however.

>Yes let’s act like 1. Health classe and PE aren’t a thing.. or 2. That some problems take more than education to fix. Like you can tell folks all day till you are blue in the face that garbage food is bad for you.. but when they live in food deserts, or the price of healthier options makes those options unreasonable.. well then garbage is better than starvation

Not disagreeing here either. I'm so not going to pretend that the vast majority of overweight people are in the circumstances you mentioned. It still is an example of personal decisions that effect society as a whole.

>Will they get everything right 100% of the time, no, will mistakes be made, yes, should this paralyze us into inaction, or show that the government is ill equipped to handle things they have been doing for over a century now, absolutely not.

Again I agree but I was responding to (like above) your notion that public education should be dictated for the benefit of all. The argument that the door is opened to potentially non beneficial things still holds.

>Libertarians are just edgy republicans

Well, no.

>. Personally, I think they are the worst.

Yes. I personally think it's a very immature, poorly thought out political stand point.

>This person wouldn’t be a libertarian.. or a good one at that then

Yes, that was point, you were conflating the two in previous replies and again in this one as "edgy" Republicans.

>How so? And like individual parents are?!

Yes. Although there are some parents that are bad, you don't remove the ability of the whole to decide for thier own children what they are taught. The higher education system that has made educators "experts" provide them with a frankly one sided, bias view of the world. It is far from a secret that college professors are predominantly liberal and very few hold any conservative view points. This has been well documented. Not including the shutting down of conservative speakers deemed intolerable in the exact places that used to claim were the safe haven of free thought and expression.

>I mean why do you hate democracy then? Like literally you just explained the beauty of the system. Parents can always decide what’s best for their children, like I said now there are a multitude of alternatives for people to fuck up their kids on their own.

I dont...I understand what I explained. My point is if the system is working, why is there a complaint about the supposed lack of sex education in public school. If the point is to appeal to the parents that don't support it, then I would argue you're going about it in the absolute wrong way.

>’m civil it’s just annoying as fuck

Well I'd argue your not. You've castigated entire religious communities and denigrated any other views point other than your own.

>How is it opinionated? Please explain how teaching kids this stuff is open to opinion? Also aren’t saying nope this isn’t right also an opinion? I don’t give a shit if you want to teach your kids pre medieval theology or that the earth is the center of the universe, that’s up to you, but if your children are going to go to a publicly funded institution of learning they are going to receive lessons on what society has deemed as necessary and appropriate. What they or you do with that information after the fact is up to you and them

I've said the purely biological points in the matter are fine, I think most of the concern has been derived from the inclusion of gender theory including but not limited to the addition of texts that are sexual explicit. Although this may not be 100% of the schools systems it is completely reasonable to not want the topic discussed by the public education system if these things are a possibility.

>If a majority of parents have a problem with it they can change it… until such time, this isn’t a minority rule thing. Our children shouldn’t be denied a well rounded education cause YOU have hang ups around sexs. Nah, tax money should go to public institutions if you don’t like that send your kids to private school on your own dime, or educated them at home.

Well if we are lacking sex education in the classroom as the OP suggests I'd say this isn't a minority rule thing. Also, sending my kids to a private institution doesn't prevent tax dollars going to the public system. The same argument can be made in the reverse. If you want the subject taught how you want, then you can teach it at home. No one is denying you any education.

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