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Sticky_Robot t1_iwq7glo wrote

I-84 is the only reason I can get to civilization in a reasonable amount of time. Without it my average commute would triple.

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QueenOfQuok t1_iwqlaox wrote

If I-84 hadn't been built through Hartford, the civilization you were looking for would be IN Hartford.

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Sticky_Robot t1_iwr05vx wrote

So... I would have to drive even further? What are you talking about. Not everyone lives in Hartford.

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danathecount t1_iwqc0pc wrote

84 isn’t that bad guy, the city planners are. Time and again across the US major interstates cut cities in half.

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Jenaxu t1_iwqly34 wrote

Well yeah, it's the only way to commute by design. The fact that removing it would increase your commute by that much doesn't say much about I-84 being designed well or even being inherently important, it just means that the US has not given you the freedom to have any alternative options. The entire infrastructure system is built around car ownership at the expense of other ways of getting around.

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Kraz_I t1_iwr0q2y wrote

Even beyond the devastating cost to the city, if the highway didn't go directly through the city centers in Hartford and Waterbury, commuters wouldn't have to deal with traffic jams literally every single day. The highway twists and turns through the city, slowing traffic even more than just the higher number of people entering and exiting around there, and results in a more dangerous driving experience. And there are no good alternate routes through those corridors of the state.

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BobbyRobertson t1_iwqj388 wrote

And if it wasn't built there'd be several thousand people who wouldn't have had their homes destroyed and tens of thousands that wouldn't have had their neighborhoods decimated.

Do you really value your commute time above other people's homes that much?

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asimplescribe t1_iwqtov7 wrote

They get paid for it.

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Kraz_I t1_iwr1598 wrote

Even if the government offered you a fair market value for your home, would you be happy to uproot your life, lose your neighborhood community and start over? And if you're a renter, you get the same treatment with not even relocation expenses covered.

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BadDogEDN t1_iwqzjlx wrote

Yeah I agree, I'm often running around all over CT for work, yeah that section of highway is intimidating but it really does make my travel easier

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silasmoeckel t1_iwq9x1b wrote

Their base premis is it was the highway not the times. Waterbury got bisected by 84 and it went downhill for the same reason manufacturing died out in the US due to regulation.

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