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Aran613 t1_j1dzp78 wrote

Fuck eversource

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GaryBlueberry34 t1_j1e11c2 wrote

guess my bill payment will not be a quick transaction then.

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RamTuff4bi4 t1_j1e79fa wrote

Eversourse: Disconnection notice printing wrrrrrrrrrr. Find yourself a new supplier.......oops you can't we are it. Merry Christmas Eversource and don't forget January first our salaries are going up by 100% oh and yes your electric rate as well yes thats correct by 100%

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Vandersnatch182 t1_j1f2zq3 wrote

I fucking hate eversource. I've been without power since like 7am and my house is getting cold. I may have to spend some of my hard earned money on a hotel room tonight so my baby doesn't get sick, and I'm sure hotel rooms are price gouged to shit because it's the holidays

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thewifestah t1_j1e9990 wrote

I don’t know. They started out at 100k. They’re now at 78,113. The storm is still going on so they can’t be everywhere. They’re steadily reducing the number. I’d assume the vast majority of people will back on by tonight with some outliers that had extensive damage, needing a little longer. They always over estimate so they don’t over promise.

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NecessaryPen6178 t1_j1f2auv wrote

We lost power for about five hours this morning. Fully expected to be out of power and running the generator for the day - since our neighborhood only had like 40 outages compared to other areas that had hundreds out. Pleasantly surprised how quickly it turned back on for us.

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danhm t1_j1erlz8 wrote

Mine was out from around 3 am to 1 pm.

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Vandersnatch182 t1_j1f2209 wrote

Mine has been out since like 7am and I don't think I'm getting it back any time soon.

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ATG915 t1_j1f5oop wrote

Mines been out since 6AM and I don’t think it’ll be back on anytime soon either. There’s not even a power line down ffs

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Vandersnatch182 t1_j1f6438 wrote

Feels bad, man. I think I'm going to gather my family up and head to my mom's house. Good luck to you buddy.

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ATG915 t1_j1f6q9t wrote

Good luck to you too man. I have a generator so I can at least plug my fridge in and charge my phone, still sucks big time though lol

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Vandersnatch182 t1_j1f6x21 wrote

Yeah i really need to buy my own house so all my food doesn't die in the fridge...

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Walmart_Prices t1_j1fhyyn wrote

Bags of ice throw in the bathtub if you don’t gotta cooler put all items. ice cream on the other hand gotta eat it on one take lol

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Vandersnatch182 t1_j1fljfh wrote

Haha yeah we were thinking about getting the cooler out but we just decided to head over to my mom's house for the night

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danhm t1_j1f85h6 wrote

Good luck, man. Hope you have a way to make heat!

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Vandersnatch182 t1_j1fb6br wrote

I may just head over to my mom's. I have a 14 month old little boy and I'm not really in a position to be waiting around for eversource considering how they handled the last major weather event....

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danhm t1_j1fdnhb wrote

Smart. My parents are out of town and we were going to go to their house if the power didn't come back earlier. Especially with the single digit temps coming...

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Vandersnatch182 t1_j1ff4ox wrote

Yeah, I'm about to load up my family and start packing. Appreciate the good luck wish from you. Fingers crossed my place is back up tomorrow haha

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eddie964 t1_j1ecjkr wrote

There is no scenario in which power can be restored instantaneously after a storm knocks thousands of trees down on power lines and cuts power to 100,000 or more people.

No matter how many crews they have on hand, and how many more they bring in, they still have to address immediate safety concerns (e.g., live wires on public roadways), conduct a damage assessment, develop a restoration plan and send out crews to each individual outage-causing event (potentially thousands of them) to do the physical work of cutting trees, erecting poles, replacing transformers and re-stringing line.

Even if Eversource planned and prepared perfectly, and had all necessary resources on hand and ready to go, complete restoration could be expected to take multiple days.

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krugo t1_j1eq2d5 wrote

It would be nicer to have bigger, more prepared crews rather than millions more in executive payouts though. Every little bit helps.

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LordConnecticut t1_j1g483a wrote

Idiotic. You’re argument is analogous to this:

“There is no scenario where you can drive Boston to NYC instantly, so even if you drive normal highway speeds it will still take hours to get there.”

So you’re saying we should blame Eversource for driving 5 MPH for that trip? Because that’s what they do. They’ve gutted themselves in the name of regulatory avoidance and profit. All you need to do is look at how quickly other utilities in other states restore power when they have the same number of outages.

Enough with the Eversource apologies. May the entire board rot in hell.

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eddie964 t1_j1g9wy5 wrote

My point is that there are real limits to how quickly a utility can restore power. You could have a thousand crews lined up and pre-positioned before the storm starts, and all but a dozen or so are going to be sitting around collecting double-time-and-a-half for the first 12-24 hours while the rest clear downed trees and pull live wires off roads. You can't fix damage you can't get to.

Although major repairs get underway as soon as it is safe, most of those 1,000 crews will continue to sit in their trucks, sipping coffee and making money for the subsequent 12 to 24 hours while assessment is underway. And then you have to factor for the time it will take to actually repair the broken system.

Could Eversource manage this process better and more efficiently? Almost certainly. But eventually, you hit diminishing returns.

After Isaias, IIRC, it took Eversource eight days to get the last customers back on. They had made a bad guess as to how impactful the storm would be, undercommitted restoration resources, and performed poorly during the effort. They got justifiably creamed by PURA. They got slapped with tens of millions in fines and penalties, suffered a reduction of their allowed profitability, and got a whole shitload of unwanted (by them) new laws and regulations.

PURA and the General Assembly got a lot of headlines and tried to come across as tough on the utilities, but here's what no one is telling you: Even if Eversource had prepared correctly and executed its restoration plan perfectly, it would have had power fully restored maybe 24 hours sooner. If it had overcommitted and gone well beyond what its restoration plan specifed, it might have cut that by another day.

Either in that case, there would still have been massive numbers of customers out 48 hours after the storm, and full restoration work have taken six days. Hell, even if they could have gotten it down to five days, customers would have been showing up with pitchforks and torches, calling for heads to roll, after two days without power. And that's just not realistic.

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LordConnecticut t1_j1gasn4 wrote

I understand what you’re saying, but you’re either too young to remember or have forgotten that 20 or more years ago, restoration for similar storms with similar amounts of outages took several hours to days at most, not weeks.

There is no guesswork here. It’s not conjecture. We have seen better in this state and it’s a direct comparison to past recoveries.

You’re using a baseline that is also shit. You’re assuming the restoration plan was “good enough”. There are no diminishing returns lmao. Line workers don’t become less productive the more of them there are.

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eddie964 t1_j1gbw8t wrote

Categorically not true. Hurricane Gloria took well over a week to restore. And having lots of crews on the ground is just a waste of money until you can get them to the damage sites and know where to send them.

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LordConnecticut t1_j1gshfz wrote

Yes that’s right, it was the longest outage to date at that point. Strangely, it wasn’t until the 2010s when there was another outage that long, and then there were several in a row….

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evillordsoth t1_j1fkrm7 wrote

> even if eversource planned and prepared perfectly

I don’t think we need to worry about that.

I’d love to know about money they spent on resiliency. I havent seen them burying lines when the towns tear the roads up.

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eddie964 t1_j1fkwq8 wrote

A million dollars a mile to bury lines, not counting what homeowners will have to spend to bury their service connections. And, buried lines are vulnerable to flooding.

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evillordsoth t1_j1fl577 wrote

I don’t think its a million dollars a mile when the town tears the road up for other repairs. I think that million dollars a mile quote includes all of the money to dig and then road resurface.

Other municipally owned utilities like bozrah l&p bury lines when the road has to be torn up to repair sewers or lay nat gas pipe.

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emeria t1_j1gofv5 wrote

If only our tax dollars were better planned to get more for our money.

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Aran613 t1_j1ekeuj wrote

Hope that boot tastes good bro

Edit: lmao the US infrastructure and power grid has been wildly susceptible to these kinds of damage for so long and power companies refuse to use their record high profits to strengthen any existing infrastructure and they're just cashing in instead of taking any sort of preventative measures so that this doesn't happen. Keep downvoting tho

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_343_Guilty_Spark__ t1_j1ezglh wrote

I’m downvoting because you’re equating common logic with “boot licking” and after realizing how stupid and wrong you were you doubled down with an edit that managed to be even more retarded than your original statement

:)

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Aran613 t1_j1f1o7n wrote

So what do you think was incorrect? Eversources Financials are public information. They're making more money than ever and also hiking rates. Do you disagree with that? If not, you should look it up. It's only a Google search away.

Do you disagree with the state of the US power grid and general infrastructure being weak? Do you remember a power station shooting earlier this year that will be down for months? Wasn't there warning that the entire US grid is equally susceptible and poorly maintained?

Surely some of that money that these Eversource execs are making could be used to strengthen these networks, right? Especially with all that money they're making after hiking their rates?

You didn't address anything in my comment lmao

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Vandersnatch182 t1_j1f3fzm wrote

Other countries like Germany that have a national power grid and almost never lose power because of it. Idk why we're not emulating them

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Downvoterofall t1_j1fdxc6 wrote

I’m genuinely asking, does Germany get the type of storms/weather that the US does?

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Vandersnatch182 t1_j1feoag wrote

That I'm unsure of, but I know that Germany is much smaller, area wise, so actually achieving a national power grid is actually plausible over there. Not that America can't do it... I wish we would.

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LordConnecticut t1_j1g4csm wrote

Yes lol. But it wouldn’t matter. Because all the lines are buried except for the main transmission lines.

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_343_Guilty_Spark__ t1_j1f5qih wrote

If that’s what you wanted to say then you would have said it in the first place. Instead you attempted to attack someone and it blew up in your face so now you’re upset and tripling down by openly lying about me not addressing your comment. It’s literally in my first sentence lmao

Everything the original poster said was 110% correct. You can think Eversource sucks and that they should invest in burying the lines while also using the two brain cells required to understand that this is the current reality and attempting to insult someone from behind a screen isn’t going to fix anything

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mkt853 t1_j1e50jj wrote

OK then I guess another state issued Isaias type of fine is in order.

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TreeEleben t1_j1f9tpr wrote

Along with a state approved rate increase a few months later so they can recover the repair costs.

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Mike00726 t1_j1e1ios wrote

Why? Because there is no incentive for us to fix this quickly.

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Ashaw06339 t1_j1fq8qd wrote

Groton Utilities had ours back within an hour 👍

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jeangrey99 t1_j1f65oe wrote

I have to say I’m impressed. Mine was out from 5 am to 3:30 pm. I was expecting worse.

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B6304T4 t1_j1gxswb wrote

I'm not sure why this is a shock to anyone. They run the same script every storm. They do zero prep, zero upkeep, and take zero initiative to prevent any of it. Then they pull in all the "dirty hands clean money" velvetbrain racketeers from every dark hole in the country to put up in hotels across the state for a week at an unfathomably high billable rate while a small army of their junior engineers drive around looking for broken sticks on the side of the road.

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[deleted] t1_j1ekce0 wrote

Lemme guess.

Everyone's power comes on after Christmas.

👍

Eversource 🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡

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backoffpeer t1_j1esh7f wrote

Eversource is a very frustrating bunch

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BryanCalens2ndFamily t1_j1eybhk wrote

I feel we should applaud Eversource for the swift action, it’s a massive nationwide storm and theyve done exemplary. It would be one thing to say we don’t know where the increased cost goes but it’s clear it’s for work such as this, also the pesky lineman labor unions don’t help the matter. They’re the real ones with the “gimme gimme gimme” attitude. Guess who pays their ridiculous rates and overtime? Working class hurting then working class is what it is.

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LordConnecticut t1_j1g4os0 wrote

Exemplary? By what metric?? Just about every other state has moved faster and had less outages.

By the way, the reason we had more outages IS NOT because the storm was more intense here then other states. It’s because Eversource doesn’t maintain their poles and lines, or trim properly, or staff properly.

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Knineteen t1_j1ewck7 wrote

Fearless Democratic leaders? Where are they again?

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Vandersnatch182 t1_j1f3mj0 wrote

When you need to let everyone know you're a shit head republican

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Knineteen t1_j1f4po0 wrote

Ad hominem. I’ll wait while you Google that.

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Vandersnatch182 t1_j1f4u1z wrote

I know what it means.

Simp. I'll wait for you to Google that.

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Knineteen t1_j1f50hp wrote

Then argue my position.

PS - I’m not a registered Republican either. So, not only can you not debate correctly but your idiotic assumptions are incorrect as well.

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Vandersnatch182 t1_j1f5yfa wrote

Argue your position? Ned Lamont has been all over this storm, keeping us updated. Eversource, wholly controlled by Republicans, is a dog shit company that takes in tons of cash but does nothing to improve our infrastructure, which desperately needs to be updated in many areas.

Also idc what your voter registration is. You're obviously on the right based on your original comment. Republicans are the types of people who try to politicize a fucking storm

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Knineteen t1_j1fs5s3 wrote

A storm? Try half a dozen storms. Eversource has been dropping the ball for over a decade, all of which has been under Democratic control.

Don’t tell me they did a bang up job with tropical storm isaias.

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Vandersnatch182 t1_j1hlnp2 wrote

Eversource is absolutely not controlled by democrats. It is 100 percent controlled by Republicans. This is all on Google if you need to check

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Knineteen t1_j1if74t wrote

The state, not the company. Now you’re just being obtuse.

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Vandersnatch182 t1_j1ijll3 wrote

https://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/eversource-energy/summary?id=D000028032

Idk how in being obtuse. I denatured your point, like you asked, now I'm backing up my claims with a source, proving you wrong. Ready to take the L?

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Knineteen t1_j1iksyd wrote

> Fearless Democratic leaders? Where are they again?

This is my original post. Clearly I have been referencing state leaders this entire thread. Now you are trying to change the argument.

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Vandersnatch182 t1_j1irr1j wrote

OK and we're on a post about Power outages so I ask you for the second time now, what were they supposed to do

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Vandersnatch182 t1_j1ikgqw wrote

What the hell is the state supposed to do about Eversource being a dog shit company, full of wealthy conservatives.

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