mrjharder11 t1_j9d6z4a wrote on February 21, 2023 at 1:36 AM

Reply to comment by gewehr44 in So we have a top 10/20 causes of death in CT yet we waste time with gun control by 1Bzi

Your source says nothing on gun laws just that the aforementioned states have low murder rates and low ownership percentages. This data really speaks to the intersections of poverty, education and population density.

The population densities of all of the low murder rate states are pretty sparse. I mean they really like their guns in Montana and Wyoming but they are some of the least populous states. Massachusetts is really an outlier it's pretty crazy their murder rate is so low with so many urban areas. I wonder how they do it?

gewehr44 t1_j9dzjgr wrote on February 21, 2023 at 5:41 AM

So you admit that there are factors other than gun control laws that are more likely to affect gun murders?

L-V-4-2-6 t1_j9f36vn wrote on February 21, 2023 at 1:42 PM

It's amazing what happens when states actually focus on their communities and try to address the socioeconomic factors that are the real contributors to violence.

That said, MA has similar issues with juvenile crime like CT does, so there's still a lot of work to be done.There were a lot of assaults around South Station in Boston over the past year all carried out by kids.

https://www.boston.com/news/crime/2022/06/28/four-juveniles-charged-assault-south-station-adam-neufell-young-other/

gewehr44 t1_j9lshxc wrote on February 22, 2023 at 10:07 PM

It appears repeat offenders are the main drivers of violent crime

https://news.yahoo.com/ct-mayors-wrestle-data-show-110000079.html

L-V-4-2-6 t1_j9dc02i wrote on February 21, 2023 at 2:15 AM

I think they were referring to the fact that those states specifically have what's called Constitutional carry.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitutional_carry

Edit: with that in mind, it stands to reason that there are more factors at play that contribute to violence than the presence, or lack thereof, of gun laws. On the reverse side of things, California has a laundry list of gun laws that include places like gun free zones, yet they were the site of several high profile shootings recently. And before someone mentions crossing over state lines to get guns, that is already a federal crime if you don't get an FFL involved.