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Carl_The_Sagan t1_janh56q wrote

Weirdly one of the biggest roadblocks is overcoming nimbyism and local control. Look at why the potentially biggest solar far was cancelled.

https://electrek.co/2021/07/26/us-largest-solar-farm-is-scrapped-because-nevada-locals-dont-want-to-look-at-it/

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altmorty t1_jankae9 wrote

There was a study that showed providing financial incentives can effectively cut down nimbyism. For example, providing locals with cheaper electricity.

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Carl_The_Sagan t1_jankp2d wrote

I love this idea. just give locals an appropriate financial benefit, plenty of stuff will get built

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H2ONFCR t1_jaodh2f wrote

Agree. Old, half abandoned neighborhoods in places like Detroit, LA, and NY would be a great place to start. Most of those folks need more financial incentive than rural people.

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dangflo t1_jb7quzx wrote

Bad neighborhoods people will destroy/steal equipment

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rigobueno t1_japbjhj wrote

Simply provide a property tax benefit in the surrounding area

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Carl_The_Sagan t1_japcxuw wrote

I like it. A critique might be it doesn't apply to renters. Just mailing checks is dumber, but it may have a more direct psychological influence.

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rigobueno t1_japg0sf wrote

It indirectly applies to renters, because it incentivizes new construction (given that the mess of zoning regulations is patched)

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SandAndAlum t1_japl46k wrote

NIMBY is a stretch. More like Not In The Back Yard Of The Town I Was Paid To Crisis Act In.

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Carl_The_Sagan t1_japw5gj wrote

Not ruling this out, but you may be underestimating true nimbyism

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SandAndAlum t1_japywoa wrote

Even the locals are usually just responding to scare campaigns.

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Carl_The_Sagan t1_jaq65q7 wrote

I dunno, the appeal of localism is that getting angry and showing up to meetings actually works, unlike other politics

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mrtouchybum t1_jaskykx wrote

Lol I live in a small town. It has fought wind and solar. Both were going to be like 10 miles away. They were offering incentives. Lower electrical bills and helping bring fiber internet to the area. Nope, cause it’s evil liberal stuff. People had signs that said keep your commie fans out of my backyard. I like the town because it’s quiet, but it’s backwards in so many ways. I don’t really see eye to eye with people in my area and have to stay quiet or I’ll get harassed.

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RedCascadian t1_janida6 wrote

Same problem with fixing our housing shortage and moving away from inefficient single-family homes.

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VincentGrinn t1_jaqc5e3 wrote

dunno why youre being downvoted, youre entirely correct

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RedCascadian t1_jaqkkut wrote

People get weird when you point out how objectively bad American suburbs are

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VincentGrinn t1_jaqccyc wrote

bruh how tf you going claim a solar farm is an eyesore

do they commute to work in a helicopter or something?

its not even at ground level or anything! it was suppose to be ontop of a mesa with a setback from the edge that made it out of line of sight

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Tricky-Engineering59 t1_jaqymd6 wrote

I’ve driven across Nevada. They should be stoked to have something to look at.

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Carl_The_Sagan t1_jaru9lr wrote

I can’t if it’s serious but it the article they say it would have blocked access to art, which is really just a few holes in the ground

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M4err0w t1_jar7dln wrote

it's so insane that stuff like that is even taken into consideration.

just let them whine, jesus.

build giant cubes that can house anyone who'd care to live there and build giant energy farms. people will deal with it

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