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altmorty t1_jcz0bcx wrote

Reply to comment by ZoeInBinary in UN climate report: Scientists release 'survival guide' to avert climate disaster by filosoful

Global covid response is evidence.

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ZoeInBinary t1_jcz4b2p wrote

Global covid response was halting, half-assed, and resulted in millions of idiots mainlining horse meds instead of following official mitigation protocol.

Only the most authoritarian of countries were able to even temporarily control the spread, and they were effectively undermined by the Freedumb Corps.

If anything, it's evidence for how hopeless this fight really is.

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altmorty t1_jczgica wrote

>Global covid response was halting, half-assed, and resulted in millions of idiots mainlining horse meds instead of following official mitigation protocol.

By "global", do you actually mean America? Pretty sure millions of idiots weren't taking horse meds globally.

Saving millions of lives and creating vaccines in record times, using break through tech, isn't indicative of hopeless.

I'm guessing no amount of evidence will be enough for doomers like you.

The way in which the fossil fuel industry fights against climate action: deflection, delay, division, despair mongering, doomism.

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ZoeInBinary t1_jczid5r wrote

Horse meds were a largely American problem, but countries such as Russia, Brazil, and India had an equally rough time combating the pandemic. Even China, with their take-no-prisoners authoritarian response, in the end couldn't contain the spread.

Which is my point. We can't depend on a few smaller nations taking needed actions; to beat climate change, we need action from everyone, including the Americas and Brazils and Indias of the world. Particularly considering how much American consumption policy influences global production...

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RenterGotNoNBN t1_jd015ib wrote

You'd need straight up rationing and martial law.

Probably wouldn't change my life significantly, tbh.

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kadmylos t1_jczioo7 wrote

The vaccine was a pro-market solution. We gave money to companies to help them make more money. That's why it worked. How is it possible to do the same with fossil fuels?

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silvusx t1_jczu90z wrote

Fossil fuel become too scarce and expensive will shift the change. When the gas price was high, people were finding ways to reduce gss consumption. Apps like GasBuddy have more users. Google map started implementing fuel saving routes.

The problem is, it'll prob be too late if we wait for the gas reserve to dry up. Goverment subsidized people to trade their gas guzzler cars for a electric car would be a start.

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Lightning6475 t1_jd0fada wrote

By making renewable more profitable. The price of solar and wind has gone way down this past decade. EV prices are coming down too and will be around the same price as a regular ICE car.

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kadmylos t1_jd21shv wrote

But being more profitable doesn't mean that there won't still be a niche for the less profitable commodity. As long as there's money in the ground, someone will figure out a way to dig it up and burn it.

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Lightning6475 t1_jd2q7jv wrote

If it cost more to dig up the ground for oil, than they’re not making a max profit and that’s just a bad investment

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