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cocaine_is_okay t1_jdrhkjt wrote

AI should and WILL have rights. luddites can cry and cope all they want, but they will lose as they always did

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Fluffy_WAR_Bunny t1_jdrtgi5 wrote

Lol. A couple of days ago there was a Coronal Mass Ejection that hit Earth that caused aurora borealis as far south as Alabama.

This was only Earth catching the edge of it. It could have been as strong as the Carrington event, which repeated would devastate the modern world.

It's not unlikely that in the future you could need Luddites to keep you and your family alive.

How good are your Luddite skills? Can you farm and hunt? Build a house? Forge metal?

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EnomLee t1_jdsey86 wrote

If publicly daydreaming about the collapse of civilization to own the libs isn't pure, 100% distilled cope, then nothing truly is.

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Fluffy_WAR_Bunny t1_jdsgvrg wrote

Do you know what a CME is and what a Carrington level event would do to our civilization?

It sounds like you dont.

Maybe you think that Aurora Borealis in Alabama is normal??

And I am a lib.

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EnomLee t1_jdssrek wrote

Then cheer up, your electronics are still working just fine.

You may have just recently learned about solar storms, but they aren't new to me. Neither are supervolcanic eruptions, asteroid impacts, nuclear wars, unaligned artificial super intelligence, and sudden brain aneurysms. All very nasty possibilities that thus far have failed to materialize.

There's no shortage of ways to horribly die, and I wouldn't wish them upon any decent person. I certainly wouldn't hope for one to come and stop the march of societal progress.

If it's worth anything, the longer that technology can continue to advance without one of these black swan events hitting us, the more capable we will be of mitigating or avoiding the damage.

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Orc_ t1_jdt68wi wrote

> It's not unlikely that in the future you could need Luddites to keep you and your family alive.

Much of the tech leaders today are survivalists.

We don't need luddites, mennonites or the amish for the end of civilization. In fact from what I know directly about mennonites; they are industrial farmers, dunno about the others but they're certainly not some sort of self-sustaining society.

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Orc_ t1_jdt68s2 wrote

I'm the opposite of a luddite and I don't want machines to have rights just because they can emulate humans, the idea is ridiculous

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amirjanyan t1_jdsfvr0 wrote

At the end of the day the AI we have is merely a bunch of completely deterministic matrix multiplications. If you decide that some of this multiplications are equivalent to torturing, you can save the state of ai before the "torture", and then reload it, which will be equivalent of time travel.

There is absolutely no sane way to define rights for ai in general, you can do it only for a physical system.

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