IPutThisUsernameHere t1_isop5j2 wrote on October 17, 2022 at 3:46 PM

Reply to comment by Echelion77 in NATO countries are getting serious about sending armed robots into battle by Gari_305

I...actually disagree. I think that as long as wars continue to be fought, they should be fought by humans. If your citizenry does not want to fight, perhaps that should be an indication that the war should not be fought. If your citizenry does want to fight, they should be the ones to do it. It's an accountability thing. Yes, it means people will die, but that's rather the point. If you don't want to kill people, or you don't want to be killed, the same could be argued for the other side. And if that's the case, why are both sides fighting in the first place?

StarChild413 t1_iss7yez wrote on October 18, 2022 at 9:42 AM

Then why not just fight wars with a poll among both nations' people about who'd want to fight on the front line

draculamilktoast t1_issanoh wrote on October 18, 2022 at 10:19 AM

If you want to attack an otherwise peaceful nation that will use robots to slaughter everybody you send over their border then maybe you're called Putin and should be ashamed of yourself instead of trying to brainwash people into not defending themselves because you think they have a moral responsibility to be pacifists but you don't. This is all on him and any Russian who doesn't oppose him.

Speaking of Putin, do you think he cares? Nothing will change the mind of a mass murderer like him and even if you killed all 150 million Russian soldiers that crossed your borders they still wouldn't depose him and they would just keep sending more soldiers to rape children. Your theory breaks down because you assume Russians will back down due to losses when they just double down when they lose. You may think that there is some sense in left in their minds, that they aren't exactly like the unthinking machines you fear, but if anything they are less humane than unthinking machines even. Unthinking machines can be turned off when the war is won but enraged Russians will keep raping innocent civilians for decades after a war.

Even Russia itself has admitted that over a million people have been relocated away from a potentially prosperous life under a more western civilization only to be repeatedly raped under Russian justice (because they will have to spread their message of terror to make their potential future enemies afraid of them). I'd take a robot controlled by sane people over a bunch of hooligans ruled by an insane gas-station-mob-boss-macho-rapelord any day.

> why are both sides fighting in the first place?

Russia because Putin wants a legacy, the west because we still remember Hitler and what resulted when he was appeased time and time again. You could make the very same argument about not using tanks against Hitler but you would simultaneously be handing over the entire planet to him. Your intentions may be founded in sensible pacifism, but that won't work against the kind of people who use death camps to exterminate entire ethnic groups.