Atomhed t1_ix570x9 wrote
Reply to comment by No-Satisfaction3455 in G20’s dysfunctional family show little sign of working together in a crisis by WallStreetDoesntBet
In the US things look this way because the GOP has ground Congress to a halt for the last 4 decades, so no durable progress can be built, and without a filibuster proof majority to pass durable legislation it's just a game of who is signing executive orders at a given time.
The solution is to elect politicians that are actually interested in running the government, rather than a bunch of conservatives who just want to break it.
No-Satisfaction3455 t1_ix70vam wrote
in 40 years dems never had a filibuster proof majority? 😅 at least don't lie for them, no they have not done anything beyond being corrupt corporate donor puppets for much longer. the voting history of these people are public.
seriously this isn't a true argument in the least, the dems are just as corrupt and beholden to donors positions. lgbtq rights weren't supported until it became a public/financial burden to not support it. Climate change and conservation were republican talking and campaign promises from inception all the way until reagan flipped the switch around 84'. Dems at this time flipped from industry first to nothing they still put profits and capital first over environment. so no it's a much deeper issue then one side being a bunch of idiots and the other complacent to the idiocy, they are all corrupt.
Atomhed t1_ix9butt wrote
>in 40 years dems never had a filibuster proof majority? 😅 at least don't lie for them,
In the last 30 years Dems have had less than 6 months of filibuster proof majorities, there is literally proof of that.
>seriously this isn't a true argument in the least, the dems are just as corrupt and beholden to donors positions.
Bullshit, the existence of donors or capital in general doesn't make Dems the same thing as Republicans.
We can actually point to the things the GOP does as a party to serve it's donors favors, there is no evidence of Dems as a party serving favors to donors.
>Dems at this time flipped from industry first to nothing they still put profits and capital first over environment.
Can you point to a particular example?
Let's inspect it together.
>so no it's a much deeper issue then one side being a bunch of idiots and the other complacent to the idiocy, they are all corrupt.
Bullshit, this rhetoric was literally born in a billionaire funded right wing think tank, and it's designed to make you think there isn't any point in showing up to out-participate conservative voters.
Here's the thing, my friend, if you intend to vote for the best possible set of material conditions and consequences a given election can afford, then more often than not a Democrat is going to get you there.
It doesn't matter if they're perfect, it doesn't matter if they're leftists or progressives, what matters is that they provide functional governance for disabled minorities like myself.
I don't have the privilege to wait around for perfect candidates before I vote, I don't have the privilege to wait for coordinated attacks on communities conservative rhetoric targets the most before I embrace Democrats as an ally against evangelical conservatism.
The general existence of donors and capital doesn't make Democrats and evangelical conservatives the same thing.
Conservatives have literally spent the last 40 years bragging about breaking the government so the people can't receive results, and that's literally what Newt Gingrich said he wanted to do, prevent the people from seeing results.
And all you've got on Dems is that they have donors too?
What a crock of shit.
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