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No-Satisfaction3455 t1_iwhe4h5 wrote
wow like it's all for show when any decisions made can be dropped the second a leader is replaced by their successors.
it's like expecting the u.n. to do something for the starving and poor beyond platitude and debate. not going to happen
OriginalCompetitive t1_iwi670z wrote
This is exactly wrong. The fact that there is so much debate and disagreement is evidence that it’s not all for show. If it were, nobody would care what was agreed.
No-Satisfaction3455 t1_iwibgxn wrote
sorry i meant the usa's and any other completely polarized nations (aus, uk, etc) commitment and their lack of due to ongoing power shifts with people that act like fingers in their ears is a solution to this catastrophe.
if that wasn't understood. it's all for nothing and a show if the richest nations will not be stable enough to do anything.
Atomhed t1_ix570x9 wrote
In the US things look this way because the GOP has ground Congress to a halt for the last 4 decades, so no durable progress can be built, and without a filibuster proof majority to pass durable legislation it's just a game of who is signing executive orders at a given time.
The solution is to elect politicians that are actually interested in running the government, rather than a bunch of conservatives who just want to break it.
No-Satisfaction3455 t1_ix70vam wrote
in 40 years dems never had a filibuster proof majority? 😅 at least don't lie for them, no they have not done anything beyond being corrupt corporate donor puppets for much longer. the voting history of these people are public.
seriously this isn't a true argument in the least, the dems are just as corrupt and beholden to donors positions. lgbtq rights weren't supported until it became a public/financial burden to not support it. Climate change and conservation were republican talking and campaign promises from inception all the way until reagan flipped the switch around 84'. Dems at this time flipped from industry first to nothing they still put profits and capital first over environment. so no it's a much deeper issue then one side being a bunch of idiots and the other complacent to the idiocy, they are all corrupt.
Atomhed t1_ix9butt wrote
>in 40 years dems never had a filibuster proof majority? 😅 at least don't lie for them,
In the last 30 years Dems have had less than 6 months of filibuster proof majorities, there is literally proof of that.
>seriously this isn't a true argument in the least, the dems are just as corrupt and beholden to donors positions.
Bullshit, the existence of donors or capital in general doesn't make Dems the same thing as Republicans.
We can actually point to the things the GOP does as a party to serve it's donors favors, there is no evidence of Dems as a party serving favors to donors.
>Dems at this time flipped from industry first to nothing they still put profits and capital first over environment.
Can you point to a particular example?
Let's inspect it together.
>so no it's a much deeper issue then one side being a bunch of idiots and the other complacent to the idiocy, they are all corrupt.
Bullshit, this rhetoric was literally born in a billionaire funded right wing think tank, and it's designed to make you think there isn't any point in showing up to out-participate conservative voters.
Here's the thing, my friend, if you intend to vote for the best possible set of material conditions and consequences a given election can afford, then more often than not a Democrat is going to get you there.
It doesn't matter if they're perfect, it doesn't matter if they're leftists or progressives, what matters is that they provide functional governance for disabled minorities like myself.
I don't have the privilege to wait around for perfect candidates before I vote, I don't have the privilege to wait for coordinated attacks on communities conservative rhetoric targets the most before I embrace Democrats as an ally against evangelical conservatism.
The general existence of donors and capital doesn't make Democrats and evangelical conservatives the same thing.
Conservatives have literally spent the last 40 years bragging about breaking the government so the people can't receive results, and that's literally what Newt Gingrich said he wanted to do, prevent the people from seeing results.
And all you've got on Dems is that they have donors too?
What a crock of shit.
Business_Bowler_1284 t1_iwibskt wrote
It’s just good PR. Helps with re-election future business adventures etc…
[deleted] t1_iwi2z0n wrote
everyone is forced to be equally selfish in order to be fair at least in theory
if some are selfish and others are selfless then that's exploitation
problem is we vs them mindset can trap ppl into non optimal (non global) solutions
to a shared yet inequitable global problem affecting disadvantaged more
same with inflation hurting bottom most
so i think we need hard data for non biased truth and global AI for optimal outcome
FuturologyBot t1_iwh4ppg wrote
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OliverSparrow t1_iwupalg wrote
Utterly typical Guardian article. It posits what it thinks should be - that the larger nations should be a cooperative "family" - and then wails when this fantasy is not attained. Read some goddam history, Guardian.
WallStreetDoesntBet OP t1_iwh0013 wrote
Although a communique, in preparation for months, will be produced, its focus on issues such as digital transformation, post-Covid recovery and food security is unlikely to stretch beyond the non-committal platitudes that normally fill such statements. Indonesia has tried to keep Ukraine off the agenda by saying the G20 is primarily an economic forum, not a geopolitical security forum.