Submitted by tonymmorley t3_z3wdxa in Futurology
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FederalSlutInspector t1_ixo1xkm wrote
78% effective how could they possibly have any kind of respectable sample size when it is such a rare disease. Are they having vaccinated people expose themselves to the virus to see because if they don't get exposed to it then there's no way to know if it is effective or not.
Bubbagumpredditor t1_ixo9iha wrote
Yes, that's what happens when you properly handle public health emergencies
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Bubbagumpredditor t1_ixofn67 wrote
Yes, that's what happens when you properly handle public health emergencies
NotAnotherEmpire t1_ixogl4o wrote
Effective sterilizing vaccine that can be given to contacts and contacts of contacts, is effective.
proto-dex t1_ixogmvw wrote
Tbf - a lot was learned from the early days of the pandemic which likely helped contribute a lot to reducing its spread. Combine that with a different primary transmission method and you have a different overall outcome
IxbyWuff t1_ixoh2c2 wrote
Hence the word 'suggests'. It's an interesting data point, not pretending to be a truth
[deleted] t1_ixoi036 wrote
idc. i aint shooting nothing more in my body. the fear mongering we experienced with covid was absolutely ridiculous. the pressure from family, friends, & work was outrageous for the severity level of that virus. what sucks is when something more serious actually shows up, nobody is going to willingly vaccinate. its created a real problem
MuayThaiYogi t1_ixok21f wrote
Monkeypox is still a thing? Haven't heard that name in a long time. Was wondering what happened to the next great emergency.
lordofcthulhu t1_ixomgho wrote
Pretty much right around the time pets and kids started to contract the virus
Holiday-Monk4167 t1_ixonq37 wrote
so you're also admitting you won't help when a more "serious" disease shows up. Covid was and remains awful because of this exact mindset.
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O_oh t1_ixoru2m wrote
You can get it from prolonged kissing, oral and vaginal contact as well. Also from touching a monkeypox rash.
It's easily handled because most people are symptomatic and easily spotted. The sudden spread/worry was from the few who were asymptomatic and people not knowing what it was
OneHumanPeOple t1_ixos0ih wrote
No. It’s spread through close contact or touching objects that a contagious person has touched as well as respiratory droplets, the same way that chicken pox is spread. The reason it has been such a big deal in the gay community and not so much the daycare and elementary school community is simply that it was the community that had an outbreak first and the two groups don’t meet that often. Gay men are also very health conscious and are more likely to seek medical help.
DrewsBag t1_ixos6ps wrote
It’s what happens when transmission requires human to human contact, not airborne.
OneHumanPeOple t1_ixosium wrote
You’re spreading misinformation. There are children who have contracted it from other children. There have been workers who contracted it from handling money passed to them by contagious customers. Cats have gotten it. None of these cases were from sexual contact.
elliothyoung t1_ixosygi wrote
Fomite transmission is extremely rare. That’s a fact.
LavaMcLampson t1_ixot6hm wrote
It wasn’t that rare in the sub population of gay men in London for a period of several months which is the group they vaccinated.
nautical_sea t1_ixouctn wrote
It’s almost like the rapid deployment of an effective vaccine to the highest risk communities decreased the transmission rate to the extent it was no longer spreading rapidly?
Who would have thought.
OneHumanPeOple t1_ixouzxp wrote
These cases didn’t arise from
>male-male butt-sex.
So how was not engaging in that behavior
>100% effective?
elliothyoung t1_ixox1ci wrote
They’re so rare they are statistically insignificant, thus, statistically, they’re not different from zero. Therefore, it is a waste of time to consider them. We don’t make policy on outliers.
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Dravous t1_ixp1cas wrote
mid-terms are over.
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Mlliii t1_ixp61oy wrote
I had multiple friends get it, most of us got vaccinated immediately, in lines hundreds of people long.
paul_swimmer t1_ixp63ps wrote
Dropped off the radar way before the midterms bud.
mastersheeef t1_ixp70lt wrote
I’m surprised the news isn’t talking about it, that’s all. Bring awareness right? Help save others. Why don’t they care?
sushisection t1_ixp7234 wrote
you dont know about all the gay dudes who got vaccinated and effectively halted its spread
sushisection t1_ixp74ve wrote
gay dudes got vaccinated and stopped the spread.
Thedracus t1_ixp7f7g wrote
It's still a thing but by far and large the lgbtq comuninity has lived with the stigma of a botched pandemic once before.
Every single gay person I know, got two vaccines doses the second they could. In my city (Cincinnati) the local health dept went to extreme measures to get anyone that was gay or willing to say they were the vaccine for free.
This is what happened the vaccine worked and gay folks took some reasonable precautions for a month or so.
curious_astronauts t1_ixp8g5r wrote
And already have an effective vaccine, and it's not airborne.
Sgubaba t1_ixp9b52 wrote
I think the Ukraine war happened
Mlliii t1_ixpbhj6 wrote
It’s mostly because there was an extremely effective vaccine rollout and community that generally aren’t fringe conspiracy theorists. CDC Case Trend chart
ManapuaButt t1_ixpemso wrote
My state did a pretty ok job at distributing the vaccines. Had some anti-lgbtq people harassing patients outside the clinics, but it was overall ok and they prevented a much wider outbreak.
Skugla t1_ixpeqsn wrote
No one ever said that about Covid,.. Or were you just stupid?
Cautemoc t1_ixpfvyg wrote
I don't know who was saying it's a great emergency... It's spread by human to human contact, not air-born like most great emergencies.
Baud_Olofsson t1_ixpkp83 wrote
> 78% effective how could they possibly have any kind of respectable sample size when it is such a rare disease.
The UK has had more than 3500 confirmed cases, and almost exclusively among MSM. That is more than enough.
> Are they having vaccinated people expose themselves to the virus to see because if they don't get exposed to it then there's no way to know if it is effective or not.
Like with any vaccine study, they are comparing infection rates between vaccinated and unvaccinated people.
GimmickNG t1_ixpkx6x wrote
The fuck are you on about?
Jebus_UK t1_ixpmspd wrote
There was certainly an air of media hysteria suggesting that it could become just thst
Spongman t1_ixpntcl wrote
The members of the gay community (which was most widely affected initially) are not as a rule crazy right-wing conspiracy nutjobs. They got vaccinated. That’s how a sane population responds to a public health crisis.
Jscottpilgrim t1_ixpo5st wrote
What a long way of saying "I don't think 6.6 million covid deaths are that big of a deal."
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TechnocraticAlleyCat t1_ixpot93 wrote
Not really, it's still running riot amongst gay men.
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xD1LL4N t1_ixpsfdj wrote
What was the flu death rate during covid era ?
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TheForsakenGuardian t1_ixpw4hx wrote
Haven’t you seen all the infected monkey pox zombies?
MuayThaiYogi t1_ixpw6t2 wrote
Shit, I missed them...
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imafraidofmuricans t1_ixpxyws wrote
You should remove the roof of your house. It's to keep rain out, but it's never rained on you inside your house so why would you need the roof?
UnifiedQuantumField t1_ixpxzvm wrote
Not catching it is 100% effective.
And it's apparently pretty easy to not catch it.
Sorry if this makes some people feel bad. But it's still true. And I'm not gonna pull the truth down because downvotes.
SgtMajMythic t1_ixpyciw wrote
Yeah I’m surprised the mainstream media didn’t milk it more for clicks and views. It’s absurd how much control media companies have over the public.
SgtMajMythic t1_ixpydsk wrote
Yeah no. It’s just not that infectious. Has nothing to do with how it’s being handled.
SgtMajMythic t1_ixpyhpz wrote
It’s not an airborne respiratory virus…it only spreads by direct contact and btw there are quite a few gay conservatives.
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murrmanniii t1_ixq04m6 wrote
Wrong. Learn the actual form of transmission before spreading your own hate speech.
murrmanniii t1_ixq0app wrote
Thank you for the reminder to also get a flu shot.
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RXisHere t1_ixq0urx wrote
Abstinence is 100 percent effective how is that wrong or hate speech? All types of people can participate in that activity
Tigersleep t1_ixq1buk wrote
That's what happens when u ignore it
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knockatize t1_ixq1ukr wrote
My gay male friends are all 50+ and married. Their risk was as close to zero as mine, but got their shots because they lived through the worst of AIDS, not because they’re going to orgies. They didn’t get to go to those the first time around, either.
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murrmanniii t1_ixq2poo wrote
Did you forget to include “abstinence” in your comment or forgot to also include “dangerous vaginal sex with a condom”? It spreads just as easily with any type of sex. Making it specifically about anal sex is stigmatizing and wrong.
RXisHere t1_ixq7fw8 wrote
That is actually misinformation my friend. Stop spreading it Anal sex causes significantly more tissue rupture than vaginal sex and therefore put those that partake in it at greater risk of viral infections like aids or monkeypox. That is a proven fact.
DustinHammons t1_ixq9s8i wrote
It dropped off the radar completely when Kids and Dogs started getting it.
aoeiduht t1_ixqa05f wrote
Up to date epidemiological data:
Gorman2462 t1_ixqad5x wrote
Doesn't sound that great. That's a C if we're grading.
[deleted] t1_ixqh3l2 wrote
If it's anything like the last vaccine, they just made that number up. "stops transmission dead in it's tracks"
Stepjamm t1_ixqhts2 wrote
And the symptoms are much harder to hide or ignore
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Cute-Excitement1935 t1_ixqn508 wrote
Oh yeah? Just like the last one? Can't wait till the data from the company making it gets released and it's actually 17% efficacy
Jscottpilgrim t1_ixqzfxx wrote
Exactly what you'd expect it to be when more than half the population is wearing masks and social distancing.
murrmanniii t1_ixr2b0i wrote
Proven facts:
MPOX is a skin to skin transmitted virus. Literally transmitted by touch. It just so happens that sex, both anal and vaginal, involves a lot of touch (if you’re doing it right).
HIV is transmitted when the virus gets directly into the bloodstream. So simple touch does not transmit it.
Those two viruses act and transmit in completely different manners. They are not at all related. The type of sex you have has nothing to do with the transmission.
Stay safe and stay informed. :)
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mymemesnow t1_ixrobtt wrote
Finally a virus I won’t have to worry about.
SgtMajMythic t1_ixrvqjs wrote
Source that there was a chance it could be “entrenched”? It’s not nearly as severe as most STIs though. Symptoms last 2-4 weeks and resolve on their own. This is an overhyped disease because we just had a pandemic and the media is taking advantage of our increased alerted state.
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MagnesnowY t1_ixuqj7e wrote
im a gay folk inside a famously anti gay folk state and i still don't know how to get mine without sone heavy hassle. luckily people aren't reporting their cases so the CDC thinks we have very little
Thedracus t1_ixurfgz wrote
You need to goto a city with a modern health dept.
MagnesnowY t1_ixurnlf wrote
thats the plan now that schools out on break for me. kinda still sucks that theres a lot of people unvaccinated here and just assuming they wont get it cuz reports are low or "not gay" or whatever. i know the public impression on monkeypox here is that only gay people get it 100%
chemhobby t1_ixv1j4q wrote
it was NOT properly handled in the UK. It's really just luck that the situation now isn't worse.
chemhobby t1_ixv2kpk wrote
except it wasn't developed in a hurried manner, this vaccine has been around for quite a while
Spongman t1_iybwlt2 wrote
where did i say anything about it being airborne or respitory? where did i say there were no gay conservatives?
SgtMajMythic t1_iyc97cf wrote
The vaccination is not why monkeypox isn’t spreading much. The virus is just inherently not as infectious, but I wouldn’t expect you to understand.
Spongman t1_iye9sli wrote
how is any of that relevant? i'm not comparing covid & mp infection rates. i'm saying that mp infection rates dropped after the vaccine became available, in response to the original question: 'Was wondering what happened to the next great emergency'
nothing you said above was relevant to the conversation.
but, i wouldn't expect you to understand.
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