panguardian t1_j0q2e2c wrote on December 18, 2022 at 4:05 PM

Reply to comment by oldcreaker in How would the economies be if AI takes most / all the jobs? by Charming-Coconut-234

Yes, I think that is a fair conclusion. The system must change, but we don't know what it will change into. Tyranny or enlightenment. Then you add climate catastrophe into the mix...

captainstormy t1_j0rcj38 wrote on December 18, 2022 at 8:59 PM

Tyranny for sure, let's be real.

panguardian t1_j0ruaic wrote on December 18, 2022 at 11:02 PM

Dunno. Protest and violent protest has an effect.

AzureSkyXIII t1_j0sgpxx wrote on December 19, 2022 at 1:51 AM

If we don't fight for enlightenment, tyranny is all but ensured.

jep5680jep t1_j0qm8i5 wrote on December 18, 2022 at 6:13 PM

It will default back to tyranny. Sadly always will.

panguardian t1_j1130j9 wrote on December 20, 2022 at 10:07 PM

I don't know about that. From what I have observed, revolution tends to lead to tyranny. Such as the Arab Spring, the Russian and French Revolutions, etc. But gradual effects through protest and using the existing democratic structure do have a positive long-term effect.

For example, the shift to the left in the UK during the 19th (the Tories ended up adopting Gladstone's position.) We might be beginning to see some kind of move to the left in US democratic policies because of long-term gradual pressure from Sanders and others like him.

Matched with protest and organization of labor, and gradual changes in favor of the majority can be gradually effected. Admittedly, we are entering unknown territory with automation. But then again, I don't know. Rome destabilized because the ruling classes imported slaves instead of paying its lower classes. So that didn't turn out too well.

Admittedly, looking at that historical, it is looking iffy. If the wealthy don't need labor, then what leverage do the majority have?