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t1_j5z26tw wrote

AI is supposed to help us not take over for us. I’m worried about AI doing everything making us dumber.

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t1_j5z45fm wrote

“Supposed to” has nothing to do with it.

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t1_j5z4zwk wrote

What’s that mean

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t1_j5z8niv wrote

“AI is supposed to help us not take over for us”

While that may be true, it doesnt have any impact on whether that will be the outcome. AI might not help us overall (probably just exasperate the income inequality) and might take over (not like become our overlords, but slowly take more important decisions away from humans in terms of war/ medicine/ geopolitics).

Its not supposed to happen is like thinking we are not supposed to break the law, start wars, eat too much sugar. “Supposed to” doesnt really mean much.

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t1_j5zbq32 wrote

Yeah well we should be planning ahead so that these bad scenarios don’t happen is my point. We need to be in control of AI, not the other way around.

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t1_j65uzka wrote

Well see, this is the thing: if it become even somewhat clear to the public at large that these things were going to inevitably happen, people wouldn’t just sit and take it. You lay off 20% of the work force, and people will riot. Disrupt the current order too quickly and there will be civil unrest, potentially hindering future progress.

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t1_j61xkfw wrote

AI can’t overthrow us until it’s able to maintain its physical parts independently. Without electricity, conduit maintenance, etc. AI goes to shit quickly without humans.

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t1_j61ycwy wrote

Nah man, it wont be humans versus AI like the fucking matrix. It will be extremely rich companies with AI and humans versus the other less fortunate masses. As long as there are humans alive they can be bought with money or ideology.

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t1_j602fls wrote

Pollution and health problems are gonna be the main drivers in making us dumber. Not an AI that helps us make excel formulas or drafts a short story.

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t1_j61bsjg wrote

For now at least, but then again, look at the job market! Robots are increasingly more commonplace at factories and many other workplaces for instance! We need to look beyond suppositions, right and wrong, morals etc and adopt and embrace fully rational, pragmatic thinking, and thinking outside of the box. In other words we need to broaden our human-ape minds and adopt flexible, plastic thinking, and abandon rigid, dogmatic, traditionalist, primitive thinking of we want to adapt to change and change ourselves! I don’t think it would necessarily be a “bad” thing or “wrong” for AI/robots, for instance, to have an increasingly active and widespread role in shaping civilisation! What would be the real disaster is if we stick to our human animal limitations and primitivity, hindering or slowing down the advancement of civilisation. We need to embrace artificiality, industrialisation, science and technology; Not return to our animalistic roots or nature! Each and every one of us is evolutionarily faulty, shortcoming and have various limitations. Most of is won’t even self-analyse, let alone adopt, learn and improve! Remember that we are a newborn species at this point in time and we haven’t even learned how to walk properly yet! We must embrace scientific, industrial and technological revolutions and evolve our civilisation in that accordance. Of that means becoming (in time of course) fully artificial and synthetic, then all the better. The more rational and pragmatic we are, the less likely we are to suffer from hindrances such as physical and mental disabilities, diseases and conditions. And then who knows, maybe we could start exploring the further reaches of cosmos and even spread to other planets! As mere organic, semi-evolved, semi-intelligent, semi-educated and semi-civilised beings, I don’t think we can achieve that. We are too fragile and needy. We have just left the Savannah where we hunted other organic beings for food. Though some of us still do that!

Considering all that, I don’t much care if we survive like this. I think it’s better that an AI civilisation, able to make rational decisions, and far faster than we with our subjective and sentimental brains could ever make, would be a better option. Or maybe us but minimally sentimental and maximally rational (Not to mean barbarity and cruelty but on the contrary, far more aware, thoughtful and sympathetic than us with our current state of being)! In any case, without AI, technologies, industrialisation, artificiality, innovations, reason, rationality, logic, responsibility, acknowledgement for our faults and shortcomings, we are nothing but another semi-evolved animal species on another blue green planet, and the possibility of destroying the civilisation we have so far comprised and authored, and still trying to get a hold of and improve!

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