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SuggestionSuperb1443 t1_j3cfehx wrote

Reply to comment by FinalJuggernaut_ in I asked chatgpt to write a UN resolution in favor of universal basic income, and this is what it returned. by AnneBancroftsGhost

I vote for taxing the rich, or closing the loopholes that let rich people stay rich because they "don't have an income. "

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liltime78 t1_j3cglwa wrote

It’s so simple, but brainwashed plebs won’t go for it because “what if they got rich?”

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Senpapij t1_j3chio3 wrote

Taxing the rich always sounds like a good idea until you realize the rich will never be taxed and it'll fall on the middle class. The rich have the resources to find loopholes, or just move their money some place else avoiding taxation.

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Enderkr t1_j3cj9wx wrote

Then you make laws against them moving the money...?

Like seriously, we haven't even ATTEMPTED to reign in the rich and people like you come in and say "well they'll just find a way around it, anyway!" Good, fuck them. If you can pass UBI, you can pass a set of laws that either guarantee you pay into it or you get the fuck out of the country. Rich people who hide their wealth overseas can lose their citizenship and be deported.

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bluegrassbarman t1_j3cplye wrote

>Then you make laws against them moving the money...?

Easier said than done when they own the politicians

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Enderkr t1_j3d6byc wrote

You are missing the point, FFS. My post wasn't meant to be some bulletproof argument for UBI and the rich avoiding their taxes, its to say that people like the guy I replied to - and you I guess - are too busy making excuses for why it can't work to even try it. So good job, the rich don't even have to own the politicians because you're already convinced its a lost cause.

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ChainmailleAddict t1_j3cl8bm wrote

Then close the damn loopholes that they CREATED in the first place! Sheesh. You're defeatist.

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Simple_March_1741 t1_j3ckzug wrote

Loopholes exist because they were purposely created for them. Stop acting like we can't find ways to properly tax them. There are plenty but since they already have too much, buying politicians is as easy for them as buying a piece of candy.

A lot of people do not realise how much wealth they actually have.

I believe it's also worth noting that when a person hoards anything else but money - they are deemed sick. But when they hoard money they're to be looked up to. That's so crazy.

These people are sick and should be treated. They should also be taxed at a high rate until there are no billionaires on this earth.

I truly believe that they can survive on 800 or 900 million just fine, lol.

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fiveswords t1_j3csdim wrote

You can choose to be the victim of our foreign OR our domestic policy but you can't have both.

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GukkiSpace t1_j3ch8ij wrote

What’s the international definition of rich?

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SuggestionSuperb1443 t1_j3ci5ln wrote

Someone with more money than me, duh

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GukkiSpace t1_j3cjn36 wrote

“It’s really important we do this, but in a way my lifestyle doesn’t have to change-it needs to be improved!”

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SuggestionSuperb1443 t1_j3cjukp wrote

My "lifestyle" affords me one meal a day plus housing. I don't think my demographic is being unreasonable

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GukkiSpace t1_j3ckitj wrote

Ah, but you still can afford a meal. I’m saying if we average the whole planet out, my bet is most people would fall into a tax bracket that would nullify the basic income. Your case in particular, idk.

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expo1001 t1_j3cmb6h wrote

So your premise is that all those people alive today, surviving under unequal distribution of resources, will on average have less than they need if we equalize distribution?

With 95%+ of wealth currently sequestered by less than 1% of people?

Your math is wrong.

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FinalJuggernaut_ t1_j3cnlzp wrote

lol

Can you math?

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TricksterWolf t1_j3ct89n wrote

once again: pretending to laugh is a big mistake here, especially when the rest of your comment fails to provide anything meaningful to the discussion--and in this case, doesn't even make sense as the burn that you seem to think you're delivering

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FinalJuggernaut_ t1_j3czvc5 wrote

I'm not pretending - I'm laughing.

But the question is serious, because if they can not math, they could not possibly understand why they are wrong.

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TricksterWolf t1_j3csupu wrote

"Ah, but you can still afford one, though very unlikely to be nutritious, meal per day! Checkmate, socialism!"

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rapidtester t1_j3cj1cv wrote

Math says it doesn't work out to cover the cost, not even remotely. Unless you set the threshold of rich to the median income or so.

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sewankambo t1_j3cjzyr wrote

That'll get you to like day 7 of funding.

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FinalJuggernaut_ t1_j3cngzc wrote

lol

I wonder, can you math?

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TricksterWolf t1_j3cu7tn wrote

This wasn't amusing, interesting, or useful the last time you posted this exact comment, and yet again, no reader here believes you're laughing as you type.

"lol" and laughing-while-crying emojis are universally used to project happiness and confidence when the exact opposite is true. You can't stop yourself from doing it because the main reason you engage in conversation is not to learn anything, but to convince yourself of your own superiority--which indicates low self-esteem as well as a set of beliefs that have been formed solely from sources that never challenge your viewpoint.

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SuggestionSuperb1443 t1_j3cod4g wrote

Well, 1+1=2 and asking the question like that makes you an asshole, so how am I doing so far?

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FinalJuggernaut_ t1_j3cubuu wrote

You're doing fantastic.

So, presumably, you can Google as well.

Excellent.

Look up total wealth of all billionaires on the planet, and divide it by all people on the Earth. You must be able to handle it, I'm sure.

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