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FindorKotor93 t1_j9hprrt wrote

Reply to comment by Ian_ronald_maiden in Sci-fi becomes real as renowned magazine closes submissions due to AI writers by Vucea

New Writers.* Pretty much anyone without a brand existing could be indistinguishable from AI at that point. Authors don't constantly generate new unique insights into the human experience, they put down a version that resonates with different people, and it is no more plagiarism than GRRM plagiarised Tolkien or Tolkien plagiarised myth or Lewis plagiarised the Bible.
If the AI can teach itself how to conserve meaning whilst rewriting, then the written word becomes a dangerous world indeed.

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Ian_ronald_maiden t1_j9hqhl2 wrote

Wasn’t photography supposed to destroy painting as well though?

If new writers cannot provide a single original thought, then perhaps they don’t deserve to break in anyway. No one is actually owed a successful novel, and if an expert craftsman can’t produce something any better than a literary sausage maker, then, well… perhaps this can provide some impetus for a sorely needed new phase of creativity.

Because it is quite notable that no one has done anything truly new and game since Tolkien - and he started writing more than a century ago.

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FindorKotor93 t1_j9hqr1w wrote

Nobody has an original thought, all thoughts are informed by experience and understanding passed onto us. The same thing the AI will mimic. I don't know why you're so opposed to this logic beyond a need to feel right.

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Ian_ronald_maiden t1_j9igsmd wrote

Determinist art is boring though

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Rofel_Wodring t1_j9m3zf6 wrote

It's also the only kind of art that exists, will ever exist, or even can ever exist.

Unless you're one of those spiritualists who think artistic talent comes from ~the human spirit~ instead of something more mundane and deterministic such as 'the artist's wartime experiences as a child' or 'exposure to hundreds of other artists of that genre'.

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Ian_ronald_maiden t1_j9mjbpf wrote

Determinism is junk.

Decisions and emotions exist, and it’s art’s ability to evoke and reflect them both that makes it interesting.

Being shaped by experience is different to being a slave to them.

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yaosio t1_j9ken3g wrote

Photography couldn't replace all forms of painting. It could only replace art that attempted to replicate real life as perfectly as possible.

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KillianDrake t1_j9i0ysj wrote

And people don't always need new original thoughts. They just want to be entertained cheaply. If an AI can write a full 10-novel series in an hour that entertains people enough and only costs a quarter, then... so be it? Better than waiting for 20 years for a series that the author's gotten tired of (ahem, GRRM).

The real thing that is attempting to be protected here is the gate-keeping. We no longer need editors, we no longer need publishers, we no longer need bored millionaire authors...

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Ian_ronald_maiden t1_j9igle0 wrote

Sure. But derivative cliche ridden re-hashes are no great loss to anyone.

The gate keeping if reliable sources, however, as we’ve seen in recent years, is a critical function.

Zuckerberg and Musk’s etc refusal to accept editorial responsibility in tech platforms has been disastrous

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