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PastTense1 t1_j9q43q8 wrote

"more than 3 million Americans lost their homes to climate disasters last year."

I just don't believe this. Could someone provide the specific data?

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Bewaretheicespiders t1_j9q7vqd wrote

They take every single natural event as a "climate disaster". The bulk of which are Florida hurricanes, according to other sources stating the same number. But of course they had "climate disasters" long before we started burning coal.

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DudeMcGuyMan t1_j9tancr wrote

>But of course they had "climate disasters" long before we started burning coal.

....with much less intensity & frequency.

Florida was hit several times this year, and the severity is more than it has been

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Bewaretheicespiders t1_j9tye87 wrote

You still can't count all of them as if they were caused by climate change. Its like Covid, you dont count all deaths, you count excess deaths.

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DudeMcGuyMan t1_j9u66qq wrote

> Its like Covid, you dont count all deaths, you count excess deaths.

Alright, what amount of these are you trying to label as "climate disasters" and how many more are you trying to label as "weather disasters", if that's what you're trying to get at? Or are you just trying to dismiss the increase of these events due to climate change?

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Bewaretheicespiders t1_j9ubwcp wrote

No, I dont dismiss the increase. Its something difficult to measure though because they are on very long cycles and we just dont have records for that long. You also cannot only measure the number of, say, hurricanes. Because a strong hurricane in the Altantic pulls cold water from deeper and will reduce the chance of another atlantic hurricane afterwards. But a Gulf of Mexico hurricane will not have this effect because of warmer, shallower water. See how complicated this gets? You can't measure damage either because development increases. Im saying this is complicated and important and outlandish, misleading claims dont help the cause.

Im not a climate change denier, Im a data scientist that likes proper science.

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-Ch4s3- t1_j9saeiv wrote

It is a Guardian opinion piece…

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applemanib t1_j9raa8t wrote

No. Because it is bullshit. The article itself didn't even site a source. There's no chance almost 1% of all Americans were displaced from climate. It even sounds made up.

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