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Sjdillon10 t1_jah2thq wrote

I got hired on the spot for a job I’m overqualified for but lack experience. They’ve pushed my start date back over 2 weeks now. I’m losing hope I’ll ever start. My car is wrecked. I need money and this place won’t let me work! Why hire me on the spot only to hold me in Fuckin purgatory

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bigkitty17 t1_jah63v4 wrote

I feel you. I’ve been waiting 6+ weeks for my dream job to make me an offer. They told me about 5 weeks ago that they were going to…

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Sjdillon10 t1_jah6aqe wrote

Yours is definitely worse. It’s by no means a dream job. Mine is intro level and pay really low. But I’ll be working with blueprints and other advanced stuff with the lifetime guys. Which will pan out in the long run in a massive way. I just need that foot in the door. But this wait is driving me insane!

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wannabecpa93 t1_jaibanr wrote

  1. Over-qualified
  2. Lack experience

Pick 1

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Titan897 t1_jaido8l wrote

Qualifications and experience are two vastly different things.

See: every graduate struggling to find work because noone will give them a job to get experience.

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wannabecpa93 t1_jaidugg wrote

I’m saying you can’t be over-qualified for a job if you’ve never done it.

I have an accounting degree I wasn’t over qualified for a staff accounting job just because I have a degree. Now that I’ve worked for a while I’d be overqualified for the job. Working the job and having the experience for the job 1 ring above what you’re applying for makes you overqualified.

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Sjdillon10 t1_jaieaqm wrote

Considering i a have 10 certifications in a warehouse where nobody else has 2 and I am the only other person who can read blueprints other than the inspector and manager? Yeah. I’m overqualified.

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Reallyhotshowers t1_jaitvk1 wrote

If you have a master's degree and apply to fast food, you will absolutely get told you're over-qualified even if you've never done that specific job.

Education absolutely over-qualifies you for certain roles by default even if you've never done them.

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Titan897 t1_jaiedyd wrote

In terms of qualifications, you absolutely can.

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wannabecpa93 t1_jaieimh wrote

How can you possibly be overqualified for a job you’ve never done? Please explain. Experience is just a part of the qualifications just like education is for some jobs.

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evilcockney t1_jaii11g wrote

If you hold a PhD, you may be seen as overqualified for many entry level positions, despite lacking the "real world" experience necessary for higher up positions.

The reason for this is possibly because employers assume that you'll demand a higher salary than typical entry level staff and that you will be at a different position in your life, because of your higher qualifications, yet you obviously haven't proven yourself in the corporate world yet, so they can't gamble on you performing well at an appropriate level.

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wannabecpa93 t1_jaik8qa wrote

We are saying the same thing. Education is only one piece of the job description. You maybe have a higher degree than nescessary for the job or “over qualified” in specifically that area. But you aren’t over qualified in the other areas in the job description or the “real world” experience as you call it AKA actually doing the job. So yes it makes sense that an employer wouldn’t want to higher someone who has an education background that isn’t consistent with the job description. They want to higher someone who has actually done the things they’re asking for on the job description. And of course when highering for entry level positions you want to analyze how long that person will be in the position so you don’t have to backfill.

When I’m hiring people I always look for people that have at minimum a 2-3 year time horizon for entry level jobs. If that job description states you need a bachelors and some practical experience doing XYZ I would question why a PHD would want that job. Doesn’t exclude them from being able to be highered. But it also doesn’t mean they are over qualified to do the job either just because they have a PHD. Now if they had also done the job before and let’s say they had the required 2-3 years of experience of doing the job + a PhD I would say they are now over qualified because they have hit all of the requirements of the job and their education is higher than needed. In your example they just have a piece of paper that’s not relevant for the job being applied for and all it really shows is they can dedicate time to studying without a plan for utilizing their degree.

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KaizerSmokeHaze t1_jajzrv1 wrote

  1. Entry level
  2. 2-3 years experience

Pick one

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wannabecpa93 t1_jak01n4 wrote

Entry level does not always mean 0 years of experience. It just means not senior. For instance you can go work at McDonald’s for a year which typically requires 0 years of experience and then go to a bachelor level of education entry level job which might require an internship of a couple summers or what have you.

But I’ll change it to 0-3 just for you.

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evilcockney t1_jalfih0 wrote

You're conflating qualifications with "being qualified" through experience

Most of the people here talking about being over qualified purely mean in terms of qualifications - actual certified documents they obtained from educational institutes.

It is unusual to hear someone use the term "qualified" to mean "has relevant experience" and that's why you're getting so much push back here, because they're not generally considered to be the same thing.

Overqualified and under experienced is real feedback that many graduates with higher degrees get - I received that myself many times shortly after completing my first masters degree. I agree that it makes no sense, but that's where we are.

Also - 2-3 years relevant experience is not entry level any more, it's still early career but it literally is not targeted at the entry point of that field. The only meaningful entry level jobs are 0 years experience, they are for people entering the field.

If you are advertising entry level jobs with 2-3 years of relevant experience required in that field, and you're in charge of recruitment, how on earth does anyone enter your field???

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DuskyDay t1_jajzdl8 wrote

Qualification comes from education, not from experience.

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wannabecpa93 t1_jajzosf wrote

If that were the case job descriptions would just say “x level of education needed “ and list nothing else. Education level is just one part of being qualified to do something.

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DuskyDay t1_jak47f8 wrote

It's because they want both qualification and experience.

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evilcockney t1_jalfp4t wrote

You're conflating two ideas.

To be qualified for the role you need actual physical qualifications obtained through education and to "be qualified" through experience.

It is absolutely possible to hold too many qualifications (and be overqualified) whilst lacking experience.

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Niel15 t1_jahscl0 wrote

Lemon, it's Wednesday.

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agentchuck t1_jajtcfj wrote

Yeah I'm not taking life affirming advice from someone who's just starting their week on a Wednesday.

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The_Bogan_Blacksmith t1_jah116d wrote

The only thing I am overqualified for is getting myself into more trouble than I know how to get out of.

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Kzoo-2992 t1_jahkzpe wrote

We’ll put and so true for a lot of us! Thx

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Snipy_Plays t1_jah12o3 wrote

My psychologist denied my intake because I was already doing "too well". It's really demotivating, but this post helps. Thanks OP.

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[deleted] t1_jagm6o6 wrote

Wait... I thought we're supposed to brag about our abilities, maybe even embellish a bit?

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Frostodian t1_jahklzy wrote

I cant pretend to be humble and im tired of pretending that I am

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Lilfizz33 t1_jahanjk wrote

This gave me a slight heart attack, I was like its not the beginning of the week its Wednesday right....?

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Katchphrase18 t1_jailcgj wrote

I needed this. I work primarily with men,and am postured to overtake a senior network engineer role. When my boss came in and asked what was going on I began to speak but the junior engineer and senior who is leaving spoke over me, boss(a man) got with the junior first and then the senior (both men) proceeded to ignore me(woman)....and then I read this. Thanks for making me feel a little better.♡

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GratefulConception40 t1_jagfo9l wrote

I don't know what the OP is trying to convey but the reality is even if you are good enough when the competitor is a close relative to the employer... Bottom line is you are not good enough.

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ChefGirlRD1738 OP t1_jagfvql wrote

Don’t forget to mention that to your therapist

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hellopomelo t1_jags8fz wrote

but that's what I come to reddit for free for so i don't have to go outside. You get what you pay for i guess

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MonokuroMonkey t1_jahptd6 wrote

I mean, I'd agree that kind of negativity was uncalled for but they have a point. Nepotism is rampant in many countries, mine included. It can be extremely discouraging, which is why I've started applying only to international companies. But those who don't speak English might not be so lucky.

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CornCheeseMafia t1_jaht363 wrote

Just because the world is unfair as a whole doesn’t mean you have to dwell on your insecurities about your place in it.

You may get screwed by a company but the lesson to take from that is that bad luck is always going to be a thing, not that you’re not good enough.

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MonokuroMonkey t1_jai6xzt wrote

No, you misunderstand me. I agree that others not seeing your worth should have no bearing on your own self-perception, and that the world is unfair. I'm just expressing sympathy for GratefulConception40.

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skeeterfunny t1_jah9d7y wrote

Needed this today, have a lot going on in my life and a job interview today

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neko_sensei t1_jaiuko1 wrote

True. I started at the bottom of the ladder at my workplace, learned the job in 3 years, got a better position and now I'm even president of my union.

And thanks, I needed that quotge as I'm about to go work and I was feeling down due to my sister having her Karen episode.

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dainegleesac690 t1_jahoztp wrote

Currently working in a job I’m massively overqualified for while taking a gap in my education. I’m gonna need some more of this motivation juice to get back to classes

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Majukun t1_jainw4l wrote

How do you know?

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Alakritous t1_jajzv8t wrote

As I prepare to write an email to some high ranking officials in my university that might decide my ability to graduate, I needed this.

Don't worry, I have a few proof readers before I send the email out

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lav__ender t1_jak80ca wrote

I don’t know 😅 I’m a new grad nurse and I make mistakes sometimes

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temprery t1_jalcdzf wrote

Yeah, always with confidence and humility

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Fairy_TaleOf_Light t1_jalnzno wrote

You are all good amazing and good people! I wish everyone happiness and a good day.

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Valenorr t1_jah8w3s wrote

🤣 you know, I needed this terribly. Thank you.

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tenghu t1_jahxyly wrote

That’s a goddamn fact

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FatTortie t1_jahxync wrote

I’m way over qualified to be washing dishes for a living. Unfortunately I had a motorcycle accident just before the pandemic which left me with epilepsy. My body is pretty wrecked so I can’t over work myself. I can’t do an awful lot of stuff I am trained and experienced to do. I can’t even drive which limits me massively due to my location. I’ve got 2 cats so I’m pretty settled in a small sleepy town just getting by.

Cost of everything thing is going up and my paycheques aren’t getting any better. I got less money this month than I used to earn in a week before my accident. And that includes the disability benefits I get. A whole month of my labour and all I’ve got to show for it is… being alive? I will be living off credit cards by the end of the month.

It’s very hard to know where to go from here because my options are very limited. I don’t want to work myself into a cripple just for the sake of staying alive. Seems counterintuitive.

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togoldlybo t1_jai7vuj wrote

I have epilepsy too - so sorry to hear about its impact on you. I was fired last year because of it after I requested reasonable accommodations (e.g., leave me the fuck alone when I'm working because my cognitive decline is heightened by interruptions, which were constant at that job).

It's weird to think of the "before" times when everything has changed because of seizures. Didn't mean to ramble, but just wanted to say this struck a chord with me. You aren't alone, friend.

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Fancy_Female t1_jahigzk wrote

Do these actually help people?

Why don't you just know you're worth. The reason why you're not paid enough, is because you know you're worth more, but you accepted a position whose value for a good or service provided is lower than your potential.

Stop blaming your boss. Stop doubting your worth. Find a job that provides the most value that you're able to provide (not a cashier. Not a barista). And then get compensated according to that value.

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