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Suspicious-Elk-3631 t1_j1v1foj wrote

This sounds like something only rich people from first world countries would say.

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Krednaught t1_j1v1o2q wrote

People dieing from curable ailments but can't afford them feeling real dumb right now. /s

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Initial_E t1_j1wqpbk wrote

Hey you’re a chemistry professor right? Why not use that knowledge to earn a few bucks and pay off your bills? See how changing your mindset helps?

Becomes the one who knocks

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Krednaught t1_j20zvnl wrote

Ah yes I'll start up my RV and go get Jesse in my undies right away!

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Pathorix t1_j1vy3bs wrote

Came here to say

Seems like what a rich person without financial worries would say lol

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ShredGuru t1_j1wt56l wrote

That kid with brain cancer is sure about to show medical science the power of positive thinking!

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Maddinoz t1_j1x702k wrote

Right, if you're not first world, a better quote I got from a fortune cookie is:

"Do what you can with what you have, where you are".

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[deleted] t1_j1vddav wrote

Something something broken clock something twice a day

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Chance_Literature193 t1_j1xe4pi wrote

I don’t like this post either, but you are definitely reading to much into. This is reads like the dude the rephrased a more poignant passage in a super generic and terribly worded way.

Let’s restrict “problems” to be things we can take action on. An Uber reasonable restriction to make while trying to problem solve. Then, this incredibly poorly worded generic truism holds in 1st and 3rd world nations.

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DrunksInSpace t1_j1wxabf wrote

Sounds like NXIVM to me.

sometimes we abuse the word abuse, by calling something abuse that we have the power to define.

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thatbrownkid19 t1_j1yfke7 wrote

Came here to say- sounds like something only the problem would say

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LetterZee t1_j1vmehh wrote

Yeah. You're probably right. But people from those countries can also struggle. It's not helpful to measure our grief against another's.

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captain_nibble_bits t1_j1vr6l7 wrote

Not really. This is basically Stoicism. One of the leading Stoics was literally a slave. He didn't even own his own body. So, no this isn't something only for rich people.

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HI_IM_PLUTO t1_j1vvfo0 wrote

Then why didn't he change his mindset to get out of slavery? Sounds like he didn't have a good enough mindset according to your logic.

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mfmllnn t1_j1w1wrp wrote

Because the mindset here is not this BS coaches want you to believe. The mindset that Stoicism presents is that you should not give things the control over you. If something bad happens, figure out if is something you can do to solve/repair/fix/improve. If there is a solution, calm down and don't let it ruin your day/life. There is nothing you can? Well, don't let it ruin your day/life too. It may be hard to believe, but how we react is more important than what happened. Understanding it requires maturity.

If you have the chance, try reading about Epictetus and his lessons. He lived about 2000 years ago in a complete different society, but his teachings still relevant, mostly because people behave the same despite the time and advancements we have.

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HI_IM_PLUTO t1_j1w4cnq wrote

>The mindset that Stoicism presents is that you should not give things the control over you. If something bad happens, figure out if is something you can do to solve/repair/fix/improve. If there is a solution, calm down and don't let it ruin your day/life. There is nothing you can? Well, don't let it ruin your day/life too.

I agree with this but the original post and comment I replied do not seem to share this same concept. Or if they do they do not give a proper representation of the idea.

I have struggled a lot with my mental health and I really want stoicism to work but it seems I am incapable of participating or incompatible because of my experience. Or I could just not be practicing it correctly. I'm honestly not sure. Stoicism just feels invalidating and delusional when I do practice it

>If you have the chance, try reading about Epictetus and his lessons.

Thank you, I have wanted to read stoic literature before but I have trouble actually retaining information and attention when I read (most books in general) so I haven't actually read any stoic philosophy. Maybe I'll give it another shot :)

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captain_nibble_bits t1_j1w6300 wrote

Hey mate. I certainly didn't want to talk down to or dismiss your struggles.

Mental health is a very difficult subject and Stoicism sure isn't some magical solution, but I found it to be really helpful to iron out the rough patches in life and I can agree with you that these modern oneliner quotes just don't work. It's like reading just do happy thoughts and be done with it. It ain't that easy.

Though I do agree with the general meaning of this quote just reading it won't help. Behind Stoicism is a lot of reading and daily mental practice before you can advance towards this outcome and even then 99.9% will never reach this goal. Though we do get better at it. And for me that's enough.

But this said, with some mental issues you need medication and/or therapy.

Greetings and wish you the best.

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mfmllnn t1_j1whm6t wrote

Hey Pluto! Didn't mean to lecture you at all, sorry If it sounded like that. English is not my mother language. I've reading and practicing Stoicism for 3 years now and I started it while fighting depression. It helped me understand others and myself, to keep calm even when my days were dark and full of negative thoughts.

I know how our mental health is essential and there is no shame to talk about it. If you ever need someone to vent or share something, feel free to PM me. Sometimes the people around us have no empathy or the sensibility to understand our pain.

If you don't mind, I would like to suggest these two books

Enchiridion of Epictetus And MEDITATIONS: BY MARCUS AURELIUS

Epictetus was a slave while Marcus was a Roman Emperor. Both had the same philosophy about the things in life, even with all the differences and circumstances.

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HI_IM_PLUTO t1_j1xd9ig wrote

Thank you. I appreciate your support. I definitely have a lot of work to do with my mental health.

I will be sure to check out the books you recommended. Is there a book I should read first?

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mfmllnn t1_j220ka3 wrote

Hey! Marcus wrote for himself, Meditations are a collection of phrases and notes he wrote on his diary.
It can be a good start as it may help you perceive and understand yourself.

Epictetus taught on the streets and his lessons are more about life in society, good and bad things, how we could behave to avoid bad thoughts and pain caused by our reactions.

I'd recommend starting with Marcus Aurelius. Anyway take care of yourself, too will find peace too.

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SuperRette t1_j1x279i wrote

Sounds like he just developed a coping mechanism that ensured he'd never try and free himself, but be "content" in his bondage. This is dangerous to propagate, and favorable to oppressors the world over.

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