it’s honestly crazy. that dream city uve been wanting to live in. achievable through discipline. studying for a few months -> qualification -> BA entry-level job in dream city 🌆

the destination you want to go to for a holiday at the end of the year. achievable through discipline. save up a chunk of money per month (30-50%), discipline urself to cook at home and stop buying uber eats daily. so achievable in a few months. and so much better than guilt-filled cheap fun like uber eats every day.

a nice apartment, car? discipline through keeping ur head down for a couple hours every day at school consistently -> qualification -> entry-level BA job w decent salary -> senior level high paying job -> that's it u have unlocked a new level of apartments and cars.

ugh discipline is so sweet. it literally will get you WHEREVER U WANT. it can literally move you to another country. it gets such a bad rep and ppl act like it's hard and shit but its literally not... but it is just a mixture of repeated small consistent actions and choosing what you want the most over some quick, cheap shit u can settle for. using the above examples wtf is the alternative? why would u even choose the alternative? feeling shit about urself all day, guilty, low fix boring dopamine with all the shit feelings of guilt, low self-esteem from seeing others do better than you and being stuck in ur dump? living in a cheap part of ur home city bc u didn't want to study for like a couple hours a day and get that qualification? instead of flights ur gonna be watching some meady youtube channel all year with some disgusting uber eats? likeeee? snap out of it! ur not even having fun in this mess u put urself in. break free. “You're under no obligation to be the same person you were 5 minutes ago." Get out of that rut. experience true freedom by knuckling down for like 5 HOURS MAX first thing when u wake up and clear your mind of tasks and guilt for the remaining fricking 19 HOURS. sleep. have a clear mind to identify what u rllllyyyy want to do if u didn't have any tasks. u want a holiday? now u have the time and mental energy to budget. u want to move cities? now u have the free time to relax and create a vision board, find a career that identifies w the lifestyle you want the most and take the steps everyday and have DIRECTION in your life. there is NO alternative.

edit: ngl some of yall r being snowflakes… idky yall r acting like i’m some white billionaire w no problems 💀 i have bpd and abusive parent myself my life isn’t easy… unpopular opinion but (personally) racism isn’t stopping me from going the library and picking up a pen… but maybe thts bc i’m from the 🇬🇧 and am privileged to not have my life at risk due to racism sorry if ur from the 🇺🇸 or smth. i know it’s hard some days but what other option is there? ur gonna feel even worse letting ur grades slip up of leaving ur job.. i’m just being a realist. my depressive episodes r high functioning so i might be privileged in that regard. sorry if u have low functioning depression this isn’t directed to 2wards u.

also i’m not talking abt the chronically depressed or suicidal or the people in the holocaust what is wrong w yall… i didn’t expect ppl in those mental headspace to be here which is y i didn’t do disclaimers… like if that’s you please rest i’m not tryna shame y’all… i’m just talking abt the general population

EDIT: ALSO IM NOT A MENTOR OR THERAPIST IM LITERALLY A TEENAGER TALKING ABOUT SCHOOL. i’m sorry i’m not talking about the functioning of the brain and how to improve ur credit score and escape oppression 🤦🏾‍♀️ AND I NEVER SHAMED ANYONE

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Coronel_Fazuelli t1_j5jvapd wrote on January 23, 2023 at 3:08 PM

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>it gets such a bad rep and ppl act like it's hard and shit but its literally not

Maybe not if you are privileged. If you live in a location with insecurities, violence, expensive food, lack of public transportation, wasn't born in a structured family and has to hard work 10 hours/day AND study, discipline is just not enough.

This is actually a trap created by the same minds that think we live in a meritocratic society.

Discipline by it self is not enough, you have to fight for yours rights too.

Conscious-Voyager t1_j5jzv74 wrote on January 23, 2023 at 3:39 PM

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discipline with a little planning, yes! :-)

[deleted] t1_j5k132b wrote on January 23, 2023 at 3:47 PM

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scandalissa t1_j5k2ro3 wrote on January 23, 2023 at 3:58 PM

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“Through discipline comes freedom” - Aristotle

Coronel_Fazuelli t1_j5kjppb wrote on January 23, 2023 at 5:45 PM

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Congratulations on your journey. It's really refreshing to read your story, but please keep in mind that there's a great variety of situations and some people have barriers in their lifes such as depression and other problems that keep them from getting in a good place.

Top_Treacle_7205 OP t1_j5kki2e wrote on January 23, 2023 at 5:50 PM

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Replying to Coronel_Fazuelli (#1,454,067)

oh i’m sorry ur completely right man. ♥️♥️ i’m probably privileged in many aspects health, mild mental health issues, opportunities etc that isn’t a barrier for my education but many people aren’t. im sorry if this came off a certain way. 🙏🏾.

Original-Ad-4642 t1_j5kloez wrote on January 23, 2023 at 5:57 PM

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Discipline won’t get you anywhere you want.

I don’t care how disciplined he got, Shaq would never get to be a jockey in the Kentucky Derby.

But…discipline will let you go further than you ever could without it.

PhilosophyFrisbee t1_j5kmptl wrote on January 23, 2023 at 6:03 PM

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Somewhat disagree.

Gladwell has done great studies on this, and while drive will generally help, there is a major component of luck (timing, being born into the right family, knowing the right people, having access to support systems) involved in anyones success.

It's drive and luck

Top_Treacle_7205 OP t1_j5knd94 wrote on January 23, 2023 at 6:07 PM

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yess i also believe that but even us poor blk ppl can get out of the shit environments through education and a good job. i’ve seen my older sis do it. luck is def a factor but i’m lucky to live in a country that makes opportunities accessible for disadvantaged students and stuff. ik that’s not the case everywhere but even worst case scenario it will still get u further than if u don’t put in effort

nonrandomusername17 t1_j5ky6u2 wrote on January 23, 2023 at 7:14 PM

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Very interesting.

Would you say that a lack of discipline, is why so many Jews died in the holocaust?

Because as you say, discipline will get you ANYwhere.

Thanks!

nonrandomusername17 t1_j5l5i7v wrote on January 23, 2023 at 8:00 PM

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It's the logical conclusion of the pseudo-religious Just World Hypothesis you and many others keep pushing on this subreddit.

You reap what you sow, karma, work hard and you can achieve anything, if you believe in yourself anything is possible, discipline will get you anywhere, hard work will set you free, Arbeit Macht Frei.

And those who 'fail'? Well it must be their own fault for lacking discipline. You're poor? You should have worked harder. You were raped? You should have been more careful. You were beaten up by the police? You should have been more respectful.

It is possible to commit no mistakes and still lose. That is not weakness, that is not a 'lack of discipline', that is life.

You know what your problem is?

You've already done plenty of things to regret, you just don't realise it yet. When you're older, you'll discover them, but realise you can't change what you did, because it's too late.

You'll be forced to accept those mistakes, carry them with you. You'll realise you're not that important, that you don't actually matter that much.

These flaws will help you build character and resilience. You will become more honest and you will realise that discipline is not enough to 'get you anywhere'.

But you will also realise that this does not matter, because as long as you have discipline, as long as do keep trying, you will also have less regrets.

Discipline is very important. Trying is very important. But it will not get you anywhere.

Accept that it won't or you'll end up giving up after you fail for the tenth time.

Accept instead that you should still have discipline, because you will regret not knowing what could have happened if you had tried your best, even if it was a long-shot and all the odds were against you.