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Cykul t1_jcon8kg wrote

"We apologize but the information on _________ National Park is still being compiled and is not yet available on our website."

^^^ on every single non-american one I clicked. Maybe in a year.

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thecaspg OP t1_jconttn wrote

The team behind the project is super small, just me and my brother. I hope more people will contribute and start adding photos and reviews.

We started with US and Canada. We are planning to cover English speaking countries first and then expand.

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Cykul t1_jcoo0g6 wrote

Okay cool, I was looking at NZ and AUS parks because I want to travel there. Good to know it's on the horizon. I assumed this was a mature service but I see it's just starting out at this stage. Cool concept!

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BernumOG t1_jcp442e wrote

https://parksaustralia.gov.au/

https://www.nationalparks.nsw.gov.au/ (for New South Wales)

https://www.parks.vic.gov.au/ (Victoria)

https://parks.des.qld.gov.au/ (Queensland)

https://www.doc.govt.nz/parks-and-recreation/places-to-go/national-parks/ (NZ)

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HardKnoxville00 t1_jcplm3x wrote

My advise is you just advertise your product as is (locations where you do have photos, reviews etc.)

Then add a section where you advertise your product to be (locations where you plan to have photos, reviews etc.)

Just be honest about it and people will understand 💖🕉️

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GayIconOfIndia t1_jcqz97h wrote

All the best :) I checked the park near my home in Assam, India and there wasn’t any information. I hope you guys are very successful in the future :)

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Dalrz t1_jcqoevo wrote

You should reach out to Nancy Bates. She’s a knitter/designer who wrote a book called Knitting the National Parks. She might have some good pictures and reviews to share.

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thecaspg OP t1_jcsrjwq wrote

That's an interesting idea. I'm always worried that people will think that I'm spamming them but I guess no harm in asking :)

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Dalrz t1_jcuv93u wrote

Maybe make the message a little more personal? And go through email rather than DM? I feel like I’d respond better that way at least.

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UnoStronzo t1_jcrh5ci wrote

I love it! I built something similar with Peruvian national parks (polygons instead of points, though) when I was in college. In my case, I used the Leaflet JS library. Keep up the good work!

BTW, you’re missing Yaguas NP in Peru 😅

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thecaspg OP t1_jcsrflt wrote

I've added the missing Yaguas NP :)aying circles because displaying polygons for all parks would require sending too much data. But I've started adding polygons to parks. When you open park details in any Canada park, you will see park boundaries. In the future, I'm planning to experiment to display all boundaries, but that would require extra processing.

I've added missing Yaguas NP :)

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RunningInSquares t1_jcqz8lx wrote

This is a really cool idea! Would love to find ways to contribute! Used to live near one of the ones in Korea so maybe when we go back to visit I'll try to add to this!

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donau_kind t1_jcvb6me wrote

I may be willing to contribute some seasoned web dev hours and local info. DM if interested.

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thecaspg OP t1_jcxhkcg wrote

The project is not open source so would be hard to contribute there. But local info would be greatly appreciated!

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donau_kind t1_jcyszlp wrote

Alright then, good luck. I am afraid my offer was valid only for OSS, but I am sure you guys will make it regardless.

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Frankie_T9000 t1_jcs85tl wrote

Why the link the the US and then the rest of the world? Either its a world map or not surely?

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thecaspg OP t1_jcpkinz wrote

Hard to make website successful only targeting small country.

Also, I don’t really follow the part about corporate BS.

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grafknives t1_jcqgthm wrote

Ok, then it is quite impressive.

HOWEVER! Why dont use chatGPT to generate text for ALL the parks in in the world? This will be ONE TIME work.

I bet you could work it better with programming, but it could be done "by hand".

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Delioth t1_jcqpwop wrote

Chat GPT is incredibly confident and oftentimes plainly wrong, with little way to tell which is right and which is wrong, is certainly part of why

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grafknives t1_jcr0mpp wrote

But in this case the authors NEED some source of information of every park in the world.

  1. Building a community - best, but really really hard. Like, extremely unlikely.

  2. scrapping some data from the net. Easier, but quality and availability of data is less reliable.

  3. use AI. lowest quality, but available ON HAND - here and now.

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Delioth t1_jcvlr9f wrote

When you're giving people information that may be used for e.g. travel planning... It's better to say nothing than to say something factually incorrect.

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grafknives t1_jcx8sva wrote

How can you make sure that open street maps are correct?

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Delioth t1_jcydx79 wrote

You can't, aside from finding corroborating sources. But we've been using things like MapQuest and Google maps for some time now, enough to trust that they're usually correct. Sometimes missing closed roads or doing a weird direction, but by-and-large correct. Chat GPT and such have precisely the opposite though. There's a few times it's correct and they're certainly cool, but it's also as confidently incorrect as that crass uncle everyone seems to have.

But I need you to recognize that "this map tells you there's a road to turn left here but there isn't one" (so you go another hundred feet and turn left) is different from like "experience nature's beauty with the falls and oaks at parkname" when the park has neither of those things. We've a track record that maps are usually pretty correct. There's no such record for AI chatbots, and the evidence we do have shows their flaws.

ETA: I mean, I asked chatgpt to tell me about a state park in my hometown and it's not even close to accurate; it claims it's on a lake (it's not), has a nature center (it doesn't), claims the park has showers (it doesn't), says the park is good for bird watchers because of the waterfowl and herons (which would probably be accurate if the park was on a lake). Gpt got a few things right... in the same sentences it got stuff wrong, often. Why it was named, the size of it, the fact that it has hiking and camping.

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Essiggurkerl t1_jcpic9i wrote

Also it only has national parks, not sure if even all of them, not parks in general

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OldKingLemur t1_jcqi21o wrote

People may not understand that in the US, there are state parks that are controlled by each state, not the federal government. So our list should be way longer in a database like this. Especially since our parks system is one of the largest in the world.

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nault t1_jcoqakp wrote

FYI, both the the federal and provincial parks in Quebec are called "national parks" because of the whole nation within a nation concept.

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charleshaa t1_jcpc8wf wrote

Great execution, needs more content but the experience on mobile is awesome !

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CheeseboardPatster t1_jcp7pge wrote

Interesting map. I noticed that France seems to have only a few National parks, which is true, but is only a part of the picture : there are 58 more large protected areas in the country, called Natural regional parks. I wonder if the same is true with other countries.

https://www.parcs-naturels-regionaux.fr/mediatheque/ressources/carte-des-58-parcs-septembre-2021

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thecaspg OP t1_jcpekho wrote

We are adding more detailed maps for countries where are more parks than just national parks. I'll add France soon.

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Mikey_Welly t1_jcrqjly wrote

r/MapsWithoutNZ

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thecaspg OP t1_jcsroi1 wrote

New Zeland is present on the interactive map though :)

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Rex_Digsdale t1_jcoz8yg wrote

Don't forget Pacific Rim national park in Canada! edit: Also Gwaii Haanas NP

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PowerWasherSoap t1_jcpgz57 wrote

Really cool idea! Why is there nothing in the Adirondacks or Catskills in NY? That's omitting the best parts of one of the biggest states!

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thecaspg OP t1_jcpkc5b wrote

I will look into it. Initially, I was getting informations about parks and their locations from Wikipedia. But it doesn’t have everything (at least not in “list” articles). Now, I’ve started importing data from OpenStreetMap but it’s also easy to miss something because tagging is not always consistent.

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JMJimmy t1_jcrvu13 wrote

Like never before? I guess you didn't know about AllTrails.com

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adelie42 t1_jcs6i5l wrote

I'm pleasantly surprised this outnumbers US military bases.

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nupersoodles t1_jcsrrad wrote

Excellent map, but it's missing at least one in Thailand - Than Bok Khorani National Park, in Krabi.

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DubiousVirtue t1_jct3kyh wrote

We apologize but the information on Pembrokeshire Coast National Park is still being compiled and is not yet available on our website. Rest assured, we are working hard to provide you with comprehensive details about this beautiful park.

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dario_raijman t1_jct9xme wrote

Good luck, I would check what APIs are out there to help you collect and display more data

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thecaspg OP t1_jctbuvc wrote

Thanks. I found out that US parks has nice API. Do you know any other? I’ve also used weather api to get historical data.

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dario_raijman t1_jctbyjo wrote

Check out what Google provide even though they are expensive... Wikipedia have an api as well

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byama t1_je8xvnu wrote

That great, but like everyone is says, lots of info is not yet available. How can I help with the one in my area?

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thecaspg OP t1_je90lw6 wrote

The best from the community would be adding reviews with some helpful info and photos. You can add them after creating the account.

What is your area?

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byama t1_je91rj5 wrote

Thank you for your suggestion! My area is Portugal/North of Spain. However, I'd like to clarify that each country has a different classification system for what constitutes a national park.

In Portugal, for example, there are three main classifications: national park, nature park, and protected landscapes. While your website only lists one "National" Park (technically true), we actually have much more, for example two "International" Parks that are technically more important, but they are categorized under "Nature Parks". I think it would be helpful to include the full list of classifications (which can be found here) to give a more accurate representation of the existing parks. Unfortunately, beyond that, there isn't much more I can add.

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thecaspg OP t1_je9blmz wrote

Thanks :)

Besides the main National Parks map, we are also creating more detailed maps for each country (right now just USA, Canada, and UK). On that maps, we display other types of parks.

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