JimBones31 t1_j915qfo wrote
Reply to comment by [deleted] in Despite 'dirty rain,' DEP says Maine will likely not be affected by Ohio train disaster by DrMcMeow
Yes it does. It's obvious that the railroad company isn't telling us the extent of the situation. If you don't want to see that, that's fine.
[deleted] t1_j916mx6 wrote
The railroad company isn't who I'm looking to for environmental impacts related to wind and weather patterns
JimBones31 t1_j9172vz wrote
So after seeing all the weather maps of the gases and chemicals floating up into the atmosphere and towards new England, where do you think the rain is getting contaminated from?
Again, if you don't want to acknowledge that the shit falling out of the sky is the same shit that flew into the sky upwind of us...that's fine.
IamSauerKraut t1_j91pvd9 wrote
>where do you think the rain is getting contaminated from?
Meteorologists who have been asked similar questions point to dust from OK and TX. They also note that several weather systems have gone thru the east coast since Feb 3 and that if any part of the smoke/debris cloud remains, it is over the north Atlantic and northern Europe.
JimBones31 t1_j91q5qf wrote
So the site is done contaminating the air?
IamSauerKraut t1_j91tos6 wrote
No longer a fire at the site, and has not been a fire for over a week. No smouldering, either.
JimBones31 t1_j91tsss wrote
Very good. We don't need a fire though for chemicals to contaminate the air.
IamSauerKraut t1_j91v21g wrote
Air readers on the ground and in the air are not finding this contamination you seem focused on. What chemicals do you think is in the air there and is also in Maine?
JimBones31 t1_j91v906 wrote
If the air readers aren't finding any, apparently none.
[deleted] t1_j917pwq wrote
I'm sure you've seen the same map everyone is sharing like crazy. You probably also saw that map is from 2/8. It's 2/18.
JimBones31 t1_j917svv wrote
Which means...the cloud of shit has moved...downwind.
IamSauerKraut t1_j91pxlm wrote
Downwind of Maine, yes.
[deleted] t1_j918qes wrote
Which means we didn't get rain yesterday that would have had anything to do with Ohio
JimBones31 t1_j918yl0 wrote
I've tried explaining it clearly. I'm done. Don't lick it off the windows.
[deleted] t1_j91bk6y wrote
"I tried explaining the science to you based off a chart/other things I don't actually understand!"
IamSauerKraut t1_j91pk5r wrote
The smoke from the derailment is long gone. It's been 2 weeks already.
JimBones31 t1_j91pqkj wrote
Fumes are still released unless it's all been cleaned up. Did they clean it all up?
IamSauerKraut t1_j91tblk wrote
Fumes have what to do with dirty rain in Maine?
JimBones31 t1_j91tnfo wrote
Fumes are made of chemicals. The chemicals contaminate the water and then it falls from the sky in the form of rain.
IamSauerKraut t1_j91ufzt wrote
Fumes are composed of chemicals, sure.
But if chemicals are contaminating the water, does that not flow downstream in the water? All surface streams in the burg flow south and west. Away from Maine.
If you mean fumes rise into the air, then you should know that those aerosols diffuse and disperse into the air to the point that they are hyper-diluted. Not to mention that numerous weather systems have moved anything that would cause dirty rain in Maine far beyond the coast, if that particular air mass even moved over Maine.
JimBones31 t1_j91uuvq wrote
Unless they have cleaned up the chemicals, don't think of them as a mass that is moving. Think of them as a mass that is spreading.
But seriously, you can think of them as Cheerios if you want to. I'm cool with that.
IamSauerKraut t1_j91vj6b wrote
>Unless they have cleaned up the chemicals, don't think of them as a mass that is moving. Think of them as a mass that is spreading.
Based on ground and air observation reports, that is not happening. There is no mass in the air that is moving. Localized fumes in eastern OH are not moving into Maine. There may be spots in the ground that remain contaminated but the site is undergoing remediation.
JimBones31 t1_j91vpjm wrote
Excellent. I'm glad there are ground and air reports that I have not seen yet.
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