I feel this, so that's why I holee mod

Thanks for the tip.

Try TX stabs. Only ones I’ve not had any rattle with so far.

Started turning to Krytox XHT-BDZ for stab wires because of this.
Holee mod was a bit too finicky for me, so I just "plug the butt" with XHT-BDZ. It caaan dry out and settle, but it being thicker than 205g0 helps tons.

It's too thin for that dude

TX stabs are insane

Gotta get that xht-bdz for stabs

Uses 205g0, a thin lube. Wonders why there's rattle.

The rattle comes from the wire. The trick is to use a thick lube so the wire is suspended inside the lube and won't touch the insides of the stem or at least won't make a sound when doing so.

For the housing, you can use 205g0.

I've had good luck with OwlStabs too

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Same, just some 205g0 and they sound better than my holee modded and lubed Durock stabs

I’ve heard good things but I’ve never tried these. Might give them a shot.

Definitely worth a shot! I've been very happy with mine. I've got some Staebies coming in now, pretty excited to give them a shot.

rev 3 hit or miss though

"Not thin" compared to what? Point is that a thicker lube works better for stabs.

Yeah, for switches

205g0 is thin for stabs, it works of course, but dialectric grease works better

I hate stabs! They can GF'd! I recently used TX Stabs and they rocked my world.

They are the only one worth it atm, TX for lyfe

I’ve tried everything that is main stream and the best one I found that is most consistent is holee mod with Durock, as Durock has such high tolerance that it doesn’t become mushy after holee

holee modding is a pain in the ass once you have to try and deal with rattly prelubed stab

will keep this in mind

Yes TX Stabs are great and also Staebies!

super lube 92016 has never let me down

The easy solution is to just remove the stabs!

Glorious V2 have been really great for me but you need to lube them good or they can get stuck because they are very tight.

I may have gone a bit extreme in this.... But I used heat shrink over the length of the bar and then used anti-seize.

Hell yeah, staebies are the goat. Smoothest stabs I have ever used.

Tell me about it. Whenever I am dealing with a pre built I always tell the owner: spend a few bucks more on Stabs so we can properly take care of them with the pre lubbing hassle

try a higher grade (e.g. 205g2) or use some kind of bandaid/pad mod

Try wrapping the wire with teflon. No seriously, it works very well. Start wrapping on the short side and end in the middle, so that it won’t unwrap

Dielectric grease for your stab wires is a godsend. Thicccc af and cheap. I do find though holee modding is a good insurance policy against rattle though.

Stabilizer tuning is absolutely the most annoying part of the build process.

I just use dielectric grease. I found it far more consistent with dealing with stab rattle. If I feel fancy I do a holee and band-aid mod.

Tbh I actually hate staebies. The tighter tolerances make them feel like they are holee modded which is bad IMO. This also creates problems if the plate/pcb is slightly warped as the stem rubs against the housing. Light lube helps, but you can’t put too much or they won’t return at all. I’d use durock or wuque before staebies. There’s a reason why stabilizers never had tolerances that tight before.

That's why you use dielectric grease. 😄

Built two QK65s and I find the included OwlStabs to be quite comparable to Durock V2s. The most notable difference I've found is that the rear gap on the stem is quite small, so "plugging the butt" can be a bit more difficult/messy.
They include small wire "rests" which are a novel idea, but do mind that too much padding (included PE foam layer, etc) WITH the wire rest can add too much upward pressure and friction to the wire, which slows down the key.

When you plug the butt with bdz, do you mean you load it into a syringe? Is there any special trick to getting bdz in a syringe? It looks like it would be too thick to both load and inject. Never worked with it though, but I've been wanting to try. Especially if it's injectable.

I just load up a thin brush and apply by hand! I do believe a store out there does have syringes of XHT-BDZ, but I've not found the need to order them.

Gonna have to try it, thanks!

The stab rattle will always be there

Wire stabilizing works a hell lot more than I thought it would be.

Especially when the lube fails. Turns out, the wires were off balance.

TX Stabs is the only stabilizer kit that for some reason don't need any lube to be tick / rattle free.

Meanwhile, if I want to "save" money, I'd go with Cherry Clip Ins because TX Stabs apparently sell better than literal cookies and Durock V2 is more expensive and needed a lot of tuning to be tick free anyways.

Heavy agree, dielectric grease is way easier to apply than 205 or BDZ. BDZ is crazy overrated and over priced.

You can even skip holee modding entirely by using a stab syringe with dielectric grease to fill the wire hole after the fact

Until it doesn't or has lube over top. Once you lube over it and it starts peeling, the stab becomes a mess.

Not worth it over using just lube imo

Ah, I’ve been burned by not holee modding. Plugging the butt doesn’t quite fix it all the time.

if you wrap it correctly (the start of the tape is covered by wrapping over it and you end in the middle, where there's no lube and doesn't grind against the stem since it stays still) there's no way it peels. Been good for the past 7 months which is light years ahead of whatever you can achieve with lube or any other mod. You could actually barely lube the stab and it would still sound fine.

I'm 100% sure I did it correctly wrapping it over the start. This is well documented in the thockpop discord which made this popular.

I tried using OWLstabs and it was peeling within a month after lubing. Switched to plugging with a syringe on Tx stabs and haven't looked back since.