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Because_I_Cannot t1_j9qspwu wrote

To say "pop music has always been shitty" is a pretty ignorant statement to make, considering the ever-changing definition of "POP" (meaning popular). Bands like The Beatles, The Cars, The Beach Boys, Chicago, Fleetwood Mac, U2, Duran Duran and Tears for Fears jump immediately to mind. Bands like Blink 182, Metallica, Garbage, Radiohead, and even REM would be considered Pop. Shit, Tupac, Biggie, Jay-Z...Pop

I'm just scratching the surface here, but "pop" isn't just boy bands and Taylor Swift, LFO and LEN, it's artists who are popular in the mainstream.

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blowbyblowtrumpet t1_j9qu41o wrote

I didn't say all pop music has always been shit. Of course there are great examples of popular music that I love. In fact I specifically said that in my comment. I like many of the bands and artists that you mention actually. That doesn't change my opinion that most pop music is, and has always been, shit. We just remember the good ones. Go back and look up the top ten for any year and it's 90% shit. Often the iconic songs that become classics don't even make to the top in the year of their release.

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Because_I_Cannot t1_j9qvw4f wrote

Alright, I took the test. I went to 1999, the year I graduated high school and, arguably one of the greatest years for movies. My opinion of "pop" at the time was non-existent as all I listened to was punk and ska from Fat Wreck Chords and RATM. Looking at the Top 10,

1 "Believe" Cher

2 "No Scrubs" TLC

3 "Angel of Mine" Monica

4 "Heartbreak Hotel" Whitney Houston featuring Faith Evans and Kelly Price

5 "...Baby One More Time" Britney Spears

6 "Kiss Me" Sixpence None the Richer

7 "Genie in a Bottle" Christina Aguilera

8 "Every Morning" Sugar Ray

9 "Nobody's Supposed to Be Here" Deborah Cox

10 "Livin' la Vida Loca" Ricky Martin

So, this is only one year, but I have to disagree with your theory that 90% of this is shit, and that's coming from someone who STILL mainly only listens to The Ataris, The Vandals and Spring Heeled Jack USA.

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blowbyblowtrumpet t1_j9qxx91 wrote

I applaud the effort you put into that! I agree that's a pretty good list with really good songs.

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BOLIVIA_NEWTONJOHN t1_j9r28z1 wrote

That's the list you're using to support your argument that pop isn't shit??? You lost.

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Because_I_Cannot t1_j9r3wiv wrote

If you tell me that 9 out of those 10 songs are legitimately shit, I don't think we have anything to talk about.

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BOLIVIA_NEWTONJOHN t1_j9roqtt wrote

Lol, every one of those songs is shit. Manufactured music for boring people who like what they're told to like.

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Because_I_Cannot t1_j9rwmkn wrote

Like I said, we don't have anything to talk about. I know I'm not going to change your mine, so I won't try to. I can tell you I did not own a single one of the albums or singles on this list, but I am not going to deny the catchiness of No Scrubs, Kiss Me, Livin la Vida Loca, Every Morning or Believe. Straight up hooks. You may not LIKE the music or songs, but to unequivocally say they're trash is just wrong.

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