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Nwk_NJ t1_ivukid0 wrote

Reply to comment by disassociationfairy in 7 Eleven to go by mantunesofnewark

If you don't realize people are dealing drugs in that area, or on Broad and Market, you're either niave, or willfully manipulating the conversation. It isn't a perfect location for the homeless...its constantly traversed and the gateway to a large swath of the city. A homeless man killed someone over there a couple years ago. We can have a real conversation, or one shrouded in modern progressive tropes that are only part of the story.

Defecating and urinating in public spaces is not a good or responsible use of the land. Public intoxication is not a good use of the space. Loitering around is not a good use of time. Again, unfortunate that the store had to close. Maybe place some blame on the folks mistreating the space than on the landlords and councilman trying to find a better purpose for it.

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disassociationfairy t1_ivumplq wrote

You’re accusing me of willfully manipulating this conversation and using progressive tropes in the same breath as stereotyping a population as drug users and dealers, filthy, and oh right now murderers. Leave your dog whistle at home next time and maybe we can have a real conversation.

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Nwk_NJ t1_ivunh6r wrote

Absolute nonsense. I am stating a fact - there are drug dealers and there is drug dealing going on in each of the areas we are discussing. To pretend my reference to actual activities going on is some kind of racist dog whistle, rather than acknowledging it, is manipulating the conversation, yes.

Here is the murder story: https://dailyvoice.com/new-jersey/essex/police-fire/homeless-man-charged-with-murder-in-newark-penn-station-stabbing/791592/

People should not be bullied off of logical discussion and valid points by false accusations of racism.

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disassociationfairy t1_ivuofu5 wrote

You share this one story of a murder from two years ago and this is what? You’re justification for why everyone should not be hanging out there, living there, and the 7-11 needs to close? I hate to break it to you but drug use and dealing is not just isolated to that area. There’s a reason it’s a nation-wide problem. You’re using one offs and issues that are beyond just this one area to stereotype an entire group of people. I’m not being manipulative and I’m not bullying I’m just calling it for what it is.

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Nwk_NJ t1_ivylmau wrote

I share a story bc murders do and have happened with the homeless population in the specific area we are discussing. Yet you acted like my mentioning that was some sort of outlandish dog whistle. I'm aware of the drug problem in this country. And it can be seen very vividly in the areas you mentioned. I'm also pretty positive there are a ton of white people hanging there and on drugs as well. Nothing to do with dog whistles and people "being outside".

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disassociationfairy t1_iwee66u wrote

You say as you continue to make sweeping generalizations about a group of people. Great job there buddy.

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ryanov t1_iweb5dk wrote

I mean, when they're repeating racist tropes, yeah, they should. You can't just fix that problem by putting the word "false" in front of it.

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