Submitted by kjstech t3_10vlsw1 in Pennsylvania

In Philly market 98.1 FM WOGL was oldies / doo-wop 50’s / 60’s music. I usually don’t listen to the radio since I have Apple CarPlay, but I stumbled across this station and they were playing Y102 like playlists - music from the 70’s, 80’s and 90’s. Stuff from Queen to Prince to 4 non-blondes.

I mean did they really change formats or at I just getting old where music I grew up with is now “oldies”?

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Covidicus_Vaximus t1_j7ie7up wrote

We have to face the fact that the songs of our youth are now oldies.

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PM_SOME_OBESE_CATS t1_j7j02di wrote

I've been making the joke for a few years now about how we'll soon hear Bring Me to Life on classic rock stations

That song turns 20 this year 🙃

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StarKing18 t1_j7ia3ds wrote

Not sure of your age (I am 40), but I cringed when I heard a podcast say that 311 accepted their place as classic rock and a nostalgia act. Time stops for no one.

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thilehoffer t1_j7ilwhn wrote

311’s new music is great though, IMO.

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StarKing18 t1_j7imd37 wrote

Agreed. I think it was because of them moving into their Grateful Dead/Phish phase as a mega-touring band and feeling like their most popular hits are in the past.

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MartianActual t1_j7inolm wrote

Dude, GenX here, those are oldies.

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blinkdmb t1_j7ii9ee wrote

I heard Nirvana and pearl jam on 102.9 classic rock station.

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[deleted] t1_j7ko2b4 wrote

That's a bigger annoyance to me. Oldies 98 did a full format change, which is fine if that's what they want to do. But to start sliding music genres around like 102.9 does is just crap.

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ScottClam42 t1_j7izzsr wrote

I remember 20+ years ago hearing Led Zepp on 98.1 and assumed from that day forward, "oldies" is a sliding scale and not perpetually 50s/60s as i once believed

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UnableAudience7332 t1_j7ieuoe wrote

Last spring, it moved to hits from the 80s and 90s. I remember reading an article with the CEO saying something about people who want 50s and 60s still being able to use the parent company's app. He just doesn't see that music as having an audience anymore.

I miss the Sunday morning Elvis show!!

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Mfees t1_j7i7994 wrote

70 and 80, is getting pretty old now. How many people listening to 50’s music today? Hard to sell adds when your market is small.

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kjstech OP t1_j7i8eq4 wrote

Your right about the shrinking demographics. I just come to the realization I’m old. Nirvana, all apologies is on now. I was in middle school when that came out.

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Mfees t1_j7i8lon wrote

I remember the first time I heard music I listened to in high school on the classic rock station. It hits you hard.

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defusted t1_j7irfxx wrote

We're getting old my friend

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IamSauerKraut t1_j7ilclj wrote

You know you are old when music made by Johnnie Rotten plays on Classic Rock.

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Hib3rnian t1_j7ixz8m wrote

When the "no sellout" bands music is used in car and insurance commercials 😢

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LibraOnTheCusp t1_j7k8h2y wrote

Do you mean when did they switch from contemporary to oldies music?

I’m 45. WOGL used to be Hot Hits WCAU FM when I was a young child in the early 80s. It was my favorite station. I can still hear the jingle with their old call letters in my head!

My mom was an ER nurse at PCOM across the street from the station then and once took care of DJ Bill O’Brien. Back then they played current Top 40, not oldies.

I think the format change happened in 1985ish? Because then I remember switching to Eagle 106, and then Q102.

here is a link to the music 98.1 was playing in 1985. According to a comment in this link, the format changed from Top 40 to oldies in Nov 1987.

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thaboognish t1_j7kg6a6 wrote

Not sure how they missed the golden opportunity to re-brand as Hot Hits and play all the songs they used to play from that time. They were playing most of them anyway, why not bring back the Hot Hits format for the sake of nostalgia? They could've even hired some of the old DJs, at least for a short time. I believe Barsky worked there and Terry Young was still on the air in Florida as of 2017.

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LibraOnTheCusp t1_j7khapl wrote

I agree!

I vaguely remember the day the switch happened. I was about 11 and turned on tbe car stereo and heard a Four Tops song and was like WTFF??? It felt like a cruel trick.

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kjstech OP t1_j7khq6m wrote

Wow I never knew they shared the same call letters as channel 10. I guess that’s legal because there’s a KYW news radio and KYW CBS 3 TV. Were they owned and operated by the same broadcaster than? Fun fact, back then channel 10 was CBS and channel 3 was NBC. They swapped sometime in the 90s.

They are playing some of those 80’s songs now. Maybe not as energetic/ enthusiastic as they were when it was considered top hits. There’s a good mix 70s-90s.

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LibraOnTheCusp t1_j7kli2o wrote

I remember the absolute confusion when CBS and NBC switched. 😂😂 I sometimes still have trouble remembering which is which now.

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LibraOnTheCusp t1_j7kmkk1 wrote

There have been a lot of format changes in the Philly radio market.

104.5 has changed formats so many times that I can’t keep up. It used to be Sunny 104.5 when I was a younger kid, then it was Star 104.5 (I listened to the nightly Between The Sheets program with Christopher Knight religiously as a teenager). Then it changed back to Sunny easy listening. Now it’s something else. I think an alternative rock station?

100.3 used to be KISS, playing basically elevator music, before it became Y100.

Similarly, 101.1 used to be Eazy 101. Now it’s B101, much more upbeat stuff.

105.3 has been Smooth Jazz/adult R&B for as long as I can recall. And 102.9 has been classic rock for as long as I remember too.

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RedsDelights t1_j7lbtqe wrote

We are just getting old!! and the older generations are passing on…

This reminds me of the Futurama episode when Fry (?) played the song ‘Baby Got Back’ and Bender says “why are you listening to CLASSICAL music” (or something along those lines)

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labdogs42 t1_j7is9ph wrote

My understanding is that is called “classic rock” and not oldies. And classic rock means truly CLASSIC. As in iconic songs of an era. So, yes, it pains me to hear my music called “classic”, once I herd the actual industry definition, I felt a wee bit better!

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wire_we_here50 t1_j7iy5ik wrote

They didn't. You just got older and forgot the old songs. Kidding.. I noticed it, too. I think it was gradual.

The place were I work has it on periodically. I remember hearing Cream,followed by bon Jovi and thought it strange. This was about 3 months ago

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PM_SOME_OBESE_CATS t1_j7j4mig wrote

The cut off period for something to be considered vintage is 25 years, so 1998

Baby One More Time is now vintage

But serious talk: is the concept of "oldies" going to change as time goes on? Or will the concept just go away altogether?

I'm under 45 so I don't listen to the radio (plus they all suck where I live), but a lot of music seems to be organized by decade, whether by its own station or by programming blocks/specials. Do you need an oldies section when each decade gets its own space? And if we keep it, that brings us back to the question of what's considered "oldies."

Will my local oldies station play some doo wop or grunge for me today lol. I of course support such such a varied roster!

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chickentendieslove t1_j7l5ju4 wrote

If it helps at all WRDV is a small radio station that plays OLD Oldies. Like we are talking 30’s and 40’s during the weekday and some more recent stuff for the kids in the evening and weekends (50’s and 60’s). It’s an awesome station. I listen to it all day long. Real DJ’s and not a lot of commercials.

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mcvoid1 t1_j7lrkg0 wrote

In the 90's the oldies stations were playing stuff from the 60's. 30 year gap. 30 years later we should start to hear Foo Fighters on oldies stations.

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ExplorerCheap8515 t1_j7n2htl wrote

Changed format back in December. Now we have four stations playing the same format. No wonder fm radio is dying.

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Reynolds_Live t1_j7qx8b5 wrote

Sadly, it's because that music is now considered "oldies". All the Classic rock stations in my area play 70's, 80's, 90's now.

I mean, I like those decades but it's the way I guess.

I know one day I will be hearing 2000's on the oldies station.

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ktappe t1_j7x5u31 wrote

They started playing 80's and 90's at least a year ago. They're going head-to-head with 102.9.

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knarfolled t1_j7lnmoy wrote

That is oldies now, sorry. We were just talking about this

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