Submitted by Waterwebgrasshopper t3_1151ux1 in Pennsylvania
ImNorm29 t1_j903q3z wrote
Reply to comment by affenage in Pennsylvania lawmaker to introduce legislation repealing death penalty by Waterwebgrasshopper
What I hear you saying is we need an express lane added!
realhighstonerguy t1_j90d322 wrote
What I hear you saying is that you believe the government should have the authority to kill it's citizens. Too many innocent people have been executed.
affenage t1_j90ehvr wrote
I completely agree with you, I think killing is wrong, whether by a person, or a government.
gdex86 t1_j90ukts wrote
No that is the absolute thing we don't want. If you want to argue for the state ending someone's life you should want to be absolutely sure of guilt and that the legal process was above board. Which even now the current process is only so so at. Arguing for an express lane gives up the ghost you care about the spectical not justice.
Finrodsrod t1_j912vko wrote
Cool. So what happens when you speed up the process and now have people killed by the state that turned out to be innocent?
AlVic40117560_ t1_j91sbd8 wrote
Even with the current slow process, there have been plenty of examples of people being proved innocent after the government killed them. Imagine how much worse it’d be if it was a quick process.
Put a loved one into that situation. They literally didn’t commit a crime. They go through the whole process and they put them to death for a crime that they didn’t commit. A few years later, they come out and say they made a mistake, someone else did it. If they were still alive, at least they could be let free. But they’re dead you can’t take that back. They killed your mother/father/sister/brother/son/daughter because the other side had better lawyers and was trying to get a good conviction rate. That’s fucked. Putting one family through that is not worth killing to guilty people. And it’s already a whole lot more than just one family with the current process.
ImNorm29 t1_j9964sd wrote
Can you name some in PA who have been proven innocent after they were executed recently? I mean I'm not even sure when the last time we executed anyone in PA, but say in the last 40 years - has it actually happened that someone was executed and later found to be innocent?
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