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LordFarquaad_theG t1_itsub9n wrote

Reply to comment by Janderss182 in The way this man can not turn down harming the environment by ActivatedFamiliar

Oz honestly seems more mentally impaired.

Guy thinks Medicare isn't "socialized medicine" lol

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Janderss182 t1_itsuns4 wrote

Yeah but u said it in your own sentence. Dr Oz at least has the ability to think

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LordFarquaad_theG t1_itsv0c4 wrote

Not intelligently

I'd rather go with an honest man like Fetterman than a scam artist like Oz

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Janderss182 t1_itsvcxc wrote

Yeah at least fetterman can wear a carhartt jacket and lie about living the union way of life. I bet ur easy to sell things to

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LordFarquaad_theG t1_itsvzej wrote

I could literally bring up how many times Oz has lied. Lies about his "magic pills". Lies about where he lives (New Jersey). Lies about how many houses he has.

Oz is a perpetual liar.

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Janderss182 t1_itsw8tj wrote

Yeah he probably is. Isn’t that a unique think in politics lol. Grow up dude. Fetterman does the same thing and so does every other politician

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LordFarquaad_theG t1_itswqj4 wrote

This guy is much more blatant though. Like your average politician might lie a bunch of times but Oz cranks it up to like x100. I just don't trust this guy.

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Janderss182 t1_itsx0gl wrote

Again your just saying the same thing that everyone says who wants his team to win

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ShockTheCasbah t1_itsv7pt wrote

It's not. When something is socialized, it means one entity (the government) controls the sole means of service and production.

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LordFarquaad_theG t1_itsvl22 wrote

Medicare (government provided healthcare) is socialism lol

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ShockTheCasbah t1_itsvt5z wrote

Is a seniors only option for healthcare Medicare?

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LordFarquaad_theG t1_itswhuo wrote

No, you could get private insurance via an employer, but your insurance would go away as soon as you left or were let go.

Premiums, deductibles, and co-pays are all much higher with private insurance however.

Which is why I laugh at anyone who tries to criticize Medicare since it keeps costs low for users.

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ShockTheCasbah t1_itswlqc wrote

SOLE MEANS OF PRODUCTION

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LordFarquaad_theG t1_itsxh93 wrote

I don't think you are educated enough about this topic.

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ShockTheCasbah t1_itsy778 wrote

You don't even understand the definitions of the words you're using.

Just Google the word socialism and tell me what it says. Also, don't try and justify changing the definition of words to fit a weird and gaslighting type narrative that justifies Medicare is "socialized".

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LordFarquaad_theG t1_itt1fnw wrote

Define socialized

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ShockTheCasbah t1_itt2cwc wrote

You mean, like how I did in my first post? (without insulting you, I might add)

In a socialized medicine system, the government (or any entity really) controls the sole means of production and distribution of healthcare. No private insurance. What you're describing is a welfare capitalist state.

Poli science 101, but maybe you aren't educated enough this topic.

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LordFarquaad_theG t1_itt3akt wrote

You're playing semantics.

You're argument is that Medicare is not socialized medicine since it does not employ the doctors and own the hospitals, but I'd say it's closer to socialized medicine due to its ability to provide healthcare to everyone.

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ShockTheCasbah t1_itt4o64 wrote

My argument is that medicare is not socialized because there are multiple (infinite for arguments sake if you're rich) sources of private healthcare options for every American. The definition of "socialized" means that the government (or any centralized entity - THE PEOPLE) have a monopoly on all that is healthcare. They are VERY different.

Medicare is capitalist welfare.

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LordFarquaad_theG t1_itt4tcf wrote

What would Medicare for All be then?

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ShockTheCasbah t1_itt4wxd wrote

With a private option, it is STILL capitalist welfare. Without, it is socialized.

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LordFarquaad_theG t1_itt54hj wrote

Medicare for All would eliminate all private healthcare. Would that make it "socialized"

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ShockTheCasbah t1_itt7cun wrote

Yes, if the only legal option you had for healthcare services were owned and operated by the government.

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