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[deleted] t1_itstuy3 wrote

Well the Fetterman campaign had this sub covered tonight it seems

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Janderss182 t1_itsvgv2 wrote

Lol. I check in here sometimes and can’t believe how one sided it is haha

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Vague_Disclosure t1_ituuh94 wrote

It’s worse than the Philly sub which is honestly impressive.

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Janderss182 t1_ituv46a wrote

Yeah you just gotta remind yourself too that it is reddit lol

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KingSizeDingus t1_itszfx2 wrote

If his performance tonight wasn’t scary enough, the censorship and PR campaign being run on here and elsewhere surely is. It’s amazing how everyone thought Fetterman did great tonight

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OligarchWelfare t1_ittil32 wrote

Just because you fascists think only your opinion should be allowed or else it's censorship, doesn't mean it's censorship.

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zimman1 t1_itstieq wrote

Whether you like it or not, until green energy technology advances our world is reliant on oil. Europe showed that. Best not to be be against oil right now.

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LordFarquaad_theG t1_itsty4l wrote

No, I'd rather not be held hostage by Saudi Arabia who can jack up prices anytime they want.

Keep oil production the same but invest heavily in energy diversification which would bring true energy independence.

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Janderss182 t1_itsua61 wrote

Yeah like nuclear energy predominately

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LordFarquaad_theG t1_itsufaa wrote

Nuclear is not bad. But we need to diversify, can't rely on one source of energy.

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Janderss182 t1_itsukr1 wrote

Cool. Most green energy sucks, is expensive, and is not efficient.

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LordFarquaad_theG t1_itsuwm4 wrote

Not true. Solar, wind, geothermal, hydro are good non-dispatchable sources we can use to diversify.

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Janderss182 t1_itsv6k1 wrote

Not true. We don’t even have batteries that are capable of banking most the energy we get from many of those forms of power

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OligarchWelfare t1_ittigle wrote

Green energy is cheaper than any but keep lying because that's what Republicans told you to believe

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Janderss182 t1_itunuyw wrote

Actually it’s not but keep lying because you’re an ideologue and can’t think outside of what your bullshit political parties tell you to think

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DavidLieberMintz t1_itxep8t wrote

How advanced does it need to be? It works, like right now. We need to invest in the infrastructure for it.

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PinkCantalope t1_itswbr7 wrote

Both these guys are bought. One is a closet democrat the other is running as the democrat

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Hey_Mr_D3 t1_itu9hte wrote

Fracking. I’m for fracking. I support Fracking. Thank you Mr Fetterman

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johnhd t1_itsxlmg wrote

Hey so is this subreddit just allowing drive-by political shilling now or what? Jesus this is downright ridiculous tonight.

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Janderss182 t1_itsxs13 wrote

I take it you have an issue with the shilling for Fetterman lol

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johnhd t1_itsytu7 wrote

There have been 4 of these in the last hour alone. If there were stupid low effort “fEtTeRmAn BaD” memes being posted every 15 minutes instead of “oZ bAd”, I’d feel the exact same way.

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Big-Revolution2164 t1_itsuhls wrote

Why isn’t Conor lamb up there

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darkbloo64 t1_itsve9g wrote

Cause Lamb was a guaranteed L against Oz. He was too moderate to actually motivate voters, which is why Fetterman ran off with more than twice the votes Lamb could scrounge up in the primary.

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stahleo t1_itt01hp wrote

The debate was over as soon as Fetterman said, "Hi, good night."

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ThunderySleep t1_itt8zl3 wrote

Oh golly gee.... Yet another totally organic shit-tier meme from an activist account that exclusively posts memes regarding different campaigns across the county.

That aside: Fetterman's meme references did him no favors in this debate. He acted like a little kid with the outbursts and interruptions, not to mention the terrible answers. Trying to be hip with the references didn't help.

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Janderss182 t1_itst4ey wrote

Are people in Pennsylvania blind and deaf or do they just love the idea of putting a cognitively impaired person into power lol

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Auburntravels t1_itstf09 wrote

Yeah Dr. Oz needs to get his cognitive impairments really looked at, good point.

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Janderss182 t1_itstynx wrote

Knock yourself out and vote for a guy who can function like a normal human being because u don’t like the other guy

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Auburntravels t1_itsu6cp wrote

Yeah you make a lot of sense there, totally sold me there better then a 30 second TV campaign ad could do.

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Janderss182 t1_itsuhk7 wrote

Hey I’m not even from Pennsylvania. I just can’t believe that Dr Oz sucks so bad that he could lose to a guy who seemingly is impaired to a substantial degree

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Bobbyroberts123 t1_itswe7x wrote

Not from Pennsylvania, but comments in a Pennsylvania specific sub? Oz is that you?

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Janderss182 t1_itswlcv wrote

well considering that I can string a sentence together, it’s probably not fetterman so

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Auburntravels t1_itsur7y wrote

Polls show that it may be the outcome from what I've been hearing in the news.

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OligarchWelfare t1_ittitqg wrote

Protecting freedom and democracy from fascist Republicans is far more important than a bad debate

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_switch360_ t1_itsujob wrote

Really? Fetterman was a train wreck and is cognitively impaired. Fracking bad, fracking good, me want a cookie.

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Whistle_Pigs t1_itstwh2 wrote

Yeah I don’t know how you could watch that debate be confident in Fetterman. That was rough to watch.

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OligarchWelfare t1_ittioie wrote

Because protecting freedom and democracy from fascist Republicans is far more important than a bad debate

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Whistle_Pigs t1_itug6ck wrote

That seems like a bit of an extreme stance but I was hoping to get an understanding of what Fetterman stood for and what some of his actual plans are but I couldn’t comprehend anything like that from what he was saying. Debates aren’t everything but it at least give people a chance to hear candidates out, apart from those god awful campaign commercials, and after an hour I couldn’t tell you one moment where he gave any details about what he truly intends to do. It was just a bad look listening to him trying to form complete sentences.

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LordFarquaad_theG t1_itsub9n wrote

Oz honestly seems more mentally impaired.

Guy thinks Medicare isn't "socialized medicine" lol

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Janderss182 t1_itsuns4 wrote

Yeah but u said it in your own sentence. Dr Oz at least has the ability to think

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LordFarquaad_theG t1_itsv0c4 wrote

Not intelligently

I'd rather go with an honest man like Fetterman than a scam artist like Oz

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Janderss182 t1_itsvcxc wrote

Yeah at least fetterman can wear a carhartt jacket and lie about living the union way of life. I bet ur easy to sell things to

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LordFarquaad_theG t1_itsvzej wrote

I could literally bring up how many times Oz has lied. Lies about his "magic pills". Lies about where he lives (New Jersey). Lies about how many houses he has.

Oz is a perpetual liar.

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Janderss182 t1_itsw8tj wrote

Yeah he probably is. Isn’t that a unique think in politics lol. Grow up dude. Fetterman does the same thing and so does every other politician

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LordFarquaad_theG t1_itswqj4 wrote

This guy is much more blatant though. Like your average politician might lie a bunch of times but Oz cranks it up to like x100. I just don't trust this guy.

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Janderss182 t1_itsx0gl wrote

Again your just saying the same thing that everyone says who wants his team to win

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ShockTheCasbah t1_itsv7pt wrote

It's not. When something is socialized, it means one entity (the government) controls the sole means of service and production.

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LordFarquaad_theG t1_itsvl22 wrote

Medicare (government provided healthcare) is socialism lol

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ShockTheCasbah t1_itsvt5z wrote

Is a seniors only option for healthcare Medicare?

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LordFarquaad_theG t1_itswhuo wrote

No, you could get private insurance via an employer, but your insurance would go away as soon as you left or were let go.

Premiums, deductibles, and co-pays are all much higher with private insurance however.

Which is why I laugh at anyone who tries to criticize Medicare since it keeps costs low for users.

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ShockTheCasbah t1_itswlqc wrote

SOLE MEANS OF PRODUCTION

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LordFarquaad_theG t1_itsxh93 wrote

I don't think you are educated enough about this topic.

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ShockTheCasbah t1_itsy778 wrote

You don't even understand the definitions of the words you're using.

Just Google the word socialism and tell me what it says. Also, don't try and justify changing the definition of words to fit a weird and gaslighting type narrative that justifies Medicare is "socialized".

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LordFarquaad_theG t1_itt1fnw wrote

Define socialized

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ShockTheCasbah t1_itt2cwc wrote

You mean, like how I did in my first post? (without insulting you, I might add)

In a socialized medicine system, the government (or any entity really) controls the sole means of production and distribution of healthcare. No private insurance. What you're describing is a welfare capitalist state.

Poli science 101, but maybe you aren't educated enough this topic.

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LordFarquaad_theG t1_itt3akt wrote

You're playing semantics.

You're argument is that Medicare is not socialized medicine since it does not employ the doctors and own the hospitals, but I'd say it's closer to socialized medicine due to its ability to provide healthcare to everyone.

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ShockTheCasbah t1_itt4o64 wrote

My argument is that medicare is not socialized because there are multiple (infinite for arguments sake if you're rich) sources of private healthcare options for every American. The definition of "socialized" means that the government (or any centralized entity - THE PEOPLE) have a monopoly on all that is healthcare. They are VERY different.

Medicare is capitalist welfare.

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LordFarquaad_theG t1_itt4tcf wrote

What would Medicare for All be then?

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ShockTheCasbah t1_itt4wxd wrote

With a private option, it is STILL capitalist welfare. Without, it is socialized.

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LordFarquaad_theG t1_itt54hj wrote

Medicare for All would eliminate all private healthcare. Would that make it "socialized"

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ShockTheCasbah t1_itt7cun wrote

Yes, if the only legal option you had for healthcare services were owned and operated by the government.

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That_Checks t1_itt3ffe wrote

I want all politicians to do less, so he surpasses the standard I have set.

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