pmabraham t1_iufd4i5 wrote
Reply to comment by Tina_Las_Vegas in Wolf Administration Participating in "Committee for Safe and Secure Elections" Group To Protect Elections From Threats / Intimidation by PierogiPowered
https://www.health.pa.gov/topics/HealthStatistics/VitalStatistics/Documents/Pennsylvania_Annual_Abortion_Report_2020.pdf ---> 32,123 abortions of which per the state document, ONLY 162 are classified as "Pre-existing Medical Conditions Which Would Complicate Pregnancy" (which doesn't give the % of risk). 162 / 32123 = 0.5% were for the mother's health. Next time, please try not to lie when there are reports to verify the truth.
Tina_Las_Vegas t1_iufge9u wrote
I was talking nationally not in a state level and I was confusing the stat. An abortion ban could increase maternal fatality over 20%
Tina_Las_Vegas t1_iufgr2l wrote
I was talking nationally not in a state level and I was confusing the stat. An abortion ban could increase maternal fatality over 20%
Edit: STILL NONE OF YOUR GOD DAMN BUSINESS WHAT I MAY OR MAY NOT DO WITH MY BODY
pmabraham t1_iufgsh5 wrote
Incorrect. Each state department of health publishes it's own data. I presented Pennsylvania's data. It mirrors the NATOINAL level of less than 1% of all abortions done for the "mother's health." What if studies don't count over reality of what is actually happening.
Tina_Las_Vegas t1_iufi6f1 wrote
Pre-existing conditions are not the only thing that would require a medically necessary abortion. A condition that pregnancy brought on, a miscarriage, pre-eclampsia, or a required hysterectomy(an additional stat in the report you attached) would also be medically necessary reasons and obviously not considered in the 162 figure you are using. Additionally any situation where the fetus has already been determined to be not viable would not be pre-existing and would be medically necessary for the health of the mother.
pmabraham t1_iufncqf wrote
The removal of a non-viable fetus (i.e. one that IS NOT alive) is not an abortion procedure. A medically induced abortion kills a living unborn baby.
Tina_Las_Vegas t1_iug5aaq wrote
Actually yes it is. This article also reminded me that an ectopic pregnancy is another example of something that is not a pre-existing condition that would require an abortion for the life of the mother.
“Medical providers often refer to miscarriages as spontaneous abortions, or by its subcategories including missed, incomplete and inevitable abortions (see Glossary).”
Link for quote.
pmabraham t1_iuhajzt wrote
Since you went with a very liberal news source, try https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/abortion-never-saves-a-mothers-life-ireland-ads-clarify-ectopic-treatment-not-abortion/
Tina_Las_Vegas t1_iuhflyo wrote
Not the US. Try again
Edit: KFF is a non-partisan research group and I at least went with a research org instead of some for profit greedy corporation.
pmabraham t1_iuhjooe wrote
Lifestyle news is nonprofit try again
Tina_Las_Vegas t1_iuipy7w wrote
Still not referring the good ole US of A.
I no longer have time to waste on you. Enjoy your life.
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