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[deleted] t1_ivp45jc wrote

Reply to comment by Gymfrog007 in If we flip the State House, I will have hope for this state for the first time ever. by DoctorSteve

What do you mean human rights? This country has more freedom than any country in the world. What about feeling safe against hate groups? Antifa? The amount of hate crime and violence these groups have started is insane. Destroying and stealing from stores and cities. Blaming the police. The left feeds off this shit

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Gymfrog007 t1_ivp9cj0 wrote

Everyone should feel safe. You are absolutely 💯 right.
There is no place for bigotry, racism, and misogyny.

They way that "antifa" handles their movement is wrong, but their belief is correct. They want to stand against fascist, racist, and extreme right wingers who want to take away rights for humans.

Other hate groups that would include "KKK" "proud boys" "neo-nazis" "identity church" should also not be tolerated as well

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[deleted] t1_ivp9wdk wrote

The far left is essentially communism, antifa is a part of that.

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Gymfrog007 t1_ivpat4n wrote

Their view is that fascism, racism, white supremacy is wrong, and oppose those who think it is right. Although I agree with their beliefs, I do not agree with how they express their beliefs.

Do you agree with their beliefs, or do you think that racism, bigotry, fascism etc are things to be supporting?

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[deleted] t1_ivpbwsq wrote

Racism exists however I don’t think it’s as bad as the media portrays it. It’s always a hard thing to prove. Saying some is racist is just an opinion. Saying some is violent is pretty obvious. I don’t support any of this nonsense. Both parties have bad eggs. Republicans to me are lesser of two evils. The democrats make shit up and want socialism. Obama, aoc, Biden are all horrible people. Trump has a big ego and I don’t like that but deep down I believe he’s a good person. He creates jobs, boosts the economy, wants America to succeed. The media just twists everything because he’s no a politician. Their jobs and careers are at stake with him in office. He’s a threat to them so they will make it their lives mission to destroy him by making shit up and lying to the people.

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Gymfrog007 t1_ivpfdeq wrote

We can agree on some points. Extremist are not good, they're are bad people on both sides. I would disagree with you that Trump wants people to succeed. I would disagree on claims that Trump created a lot of jobs. When Trump took office, the US was going on 11 years of economic expansion. Under Obama's last 3 years (36 months) job growth averaged 227,000 a month. During Trumps first 36 he was averaging 191,000. So job growth went down (and then covid hit, so we can't really compare numbers after that) Under Obama average household income increased about $5000 in his last 2 years, under Trump average household income only grew about $1500 in his first 2 years.

Racism is worse than you imagine. I have several friends of different backgrounds (Black, middle eastern, hispanic)(most of who I have served in the army with) who tell me that they fear for their Iives of they are ever pulled over for any reason. I have seen racism first hand with vulgarities shouted at them. I have had a privileged upbringing, being a white male in suburban Philadelphia, who has two parents that were teachers. I used to think that racism didn't exist, because for the first 18-20 years of my life, I had never seen it.

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[deleted] t1_ivpk47s wrote

Well I think the root cause are stereotypes. When you see a thug looking black guy lots of people think criminal, when you see a Muslim with a beard lots of people think terrorist, when you see a reclusive white kid in school kids think school shooter. It’s a shame these labels have become a reality and the good people of these races and religion become victim. Unfortunately families have lost loved ones to these kind of situations. It’s hard to erase that.

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