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stonehawk61 OP t1_izzd6gz wrote

Reply to comment by hemiones in Western Pennsylvania Native Artifacts I've found over the years. Bird Points and discarded a knife blade. by stonehawk61

Western Pa wasn't exactly a hotbed of native habitation but it still witnessed it's share of native activity.

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xjmetallium t1_j0150pf wrote

There is a rich culture of natives in western pa, some being susquehanook, Kaskaskia, osage and erie. I would do some more research before saying such things

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stonehawk61 OP t1_j01c88s wrote

Where exactly, did I say there wasn't a such culture?

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xjmetallium t1_j05g5ia wrote

Your comment says it all saying it wasnt a hotbed for native habitation! That's basically saying we don't have anything!

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stonehawk61 OP t1_j06ny40 wrote

So "native activity" is bereft of and is not in any way associative to or indicative of a culture or a population?! Got it! Thanks for clearing that up! Cahokia, Chichén-Itzá, Tenochtitlan, Echota or any number of Central or South American population centers would be by my ignorant, ill informed definition, hotbeds of native habitation. Perhaps given your hours of extensive research and vast knowledge of the histories, population levels and cultures of the tribes of Western Pennsylvania, you should easily be able to provide us with a list of comparable sites.

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stonehawk61 OP t1_j06x8by wrote

Let me help you out.
Wennawoods Publishing A History of the Indian Villages and Place Names in Pennsylvania by George Patterson.
Indian Wars of Pennsylvania by C. Hale Sipe
The Indian Chiefs of Pennsylvania : The Story of the Part Played by the American Indian in Pennsylvania History by C. Hale Sipe.
Need more? I've read them all and then some. Each more in depth than a quick Google search.
Edit for spelling

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stonehawk61 OP t1_j075l0g wrote

Get off the internet and read a fucking book.

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Cool-Ad2780 t1_j075wzl wrote

Forget to switch to your alt account? 😂😂😂

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stonehawk61 OP t1_j078hy2 wrote

Nope....hoping to at least get a response from the commenter to any one of my comments. Lol

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xjmetallium t1_j08y3kx wrote

After this i won't be responding, you aren't worth my time and you have shown me enough of your ignorance on the matter. Have a day

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xjmetallium t1_j08wzid wrote

I do read books, i have done my research and talked to natives. My family is from western, pa as well! And all of those are pale skin authors, so thanks for the not the best information. And someone did put a link in your comments to help you see on a map where tribes were at and what land we are occupying

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stonehawk61 OP t1_j09y6r5 wrote

To XJMETALLIUM,
You have in no way refuted the arguments I've presented. Your unsubstantiated claim that the books and authors I posted were unreliable because they were written by pale skins (your racism highlights your ignorance) is conclusively disingenuous by definition. Once again, and I can't stress this enough, I NEVER said there weren't any native populations in this area. Those were your words, perniciously misrepresented from my comment, with which you then felt justified in using to discount my statement and call into question my knowledge on a subject to which I have devoted nearly 40 years of my life. You are most assuredly out of your league. Additionally, recalling another commenters post as a gotcha moment, by linking to a tribal distribution map (probably drawn and published by pale skins, again your words) is without substance and is inherently ineffective in the defense of your pathetic comments, solely because you have yet to definitively demonstrate how and where I stated there were no natives. Only then would its inclusion add credence to your assertion.
Ultimately, I have to question your ability to reach a logical conclusion or to present a coherent claim, when the comprehension of 2 simple sentences is beyond your grasp. I still recommend you read more books (written only by native authors of course, as your biases require). I would however, suggest you start with the dictionary.
Ps; I wonder, exactly how is it that have you concluded that I'm not of native descent?

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invisiblearchives t1_j02mdum wrote

Just because the europeans didn't know them doesn't mean they didn't exist.

The monongahela people were a part of the mississipian culture, and had a massive population which was decimated by smallpox LONG before colonists crossed into the Ohio River Valley.

The OHR was so emptied by smallpox and migration that by the time of the beaver wars it was mostly empty.

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