Gul_Ducatti t1_j4wilm5 wrote
Reply to comment by B0MBOY in Philadelphia man manufactured ghost guns, including AR-15s, inside his Kensington home, prosecutors say by PoodlePopXX
As stated in the article, he used a harbor freight drill press and a vise with an X and Y Axis slide on it to do his manufacturing. He did not have an expensive, accurate mill or a 3d printer. What he did have access to were the components required to make the parts.
Stop selling 80% lowers, close the loop holes and it would be harder for low level guys like this to produce firearms.
As a 15 year Machinist, I can tell you it is a lot harder to go from a piece of raw stock to a lower than it is to go from an 80% to a completed firearm. The learning curve from scratch is immense.
Knarrenheinz1989 t1_j4wo2t0 wrote
You can make a firearm with any old pipe from Home Depot. It doesn't take much skill either. Hell, even fully automatic weapons can be produced quite easily from non gun parts.
Gul_Ducatti t1_j4ws1j5 wrote
Which is not what this particular guy did. According to the article he was purchasing parts kits to produce specific pattern firearms.
Yeah, you can make a zip gun or a pipe gun with minimal effort and knowledge, but that is a much different type of firearm than being produced.
Knarrenheinz1989 t1_j4wwlgt wrote
If making AR-15 lower receivers was too difficult for him, he would probably produce a receiver for a different kind of firearm, such as an AK (which uses a stamped receiver, which is made with a bent piece of sheet metal) or a Luty submachine gun (which was designed to be made with common hardware store parts).
Gul_Ducatti t1_j4wyfe0 wrote
That’s the thing, it was not difficult at all according to the article.
But that is besides the point. What if was just harder for someone with a felony record to be able to purchase the components needed?
Sure, the guy might be able to get what he needed to make a type of firearm from the local home goods store. However, many of these illegal firearms manufacturing stories do not point out that they were making pipe guns or zip guns or what ever other improvised weapon, they are almost always someone mass producing AR, AK or handgun patter firearms.
Because of the easy access to the components and the general effectiveness for the effort to make.
Knarrenheinz1989 t1_j4x1u62 wrote
Law abiding gun owners purchase parts for guns all the time because parts wear out or break. It would be completely ridiculous to undergo a 50 dollar background check to replace a 10 dollar part. Not only that, but you have to travel to a gun store or gun show to get the check done. Plus, most crime guns are still factory made firearms despite the buzz surrounding "ghost guns".
>However, many of these illegal firearms manufacturing stories do not point out that they were making pipe guns or zip guns or what ever other improvised weapon, they are almost always someone mass producing AR, AK or handgun patter firearms.
The mainstream media sensationalizes such stories because they want to scare the populace and pass more gun control. Most stories I see about pipe guns come from outside of the United States, in countries with far stricter gun control. In some third world countries, handmade guns used by criminals look almost indistinguishable from the gun it was copied from.
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