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Ijustlookedthatup t1_j7bm2qz wrote

Apply for a RI CCW permit after taking a Utah qualified class. RI was the reason the 2nd amendment exists, visit r/liberalgunowners for more info on how being in the north as a Democrat and being pro-2nd Amendment aren’t mutually exclusive. There’s dozens of us, DOZENS!!

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pbNANDjelly t1_j7bon32 wrote

What a dramatic take. There's so many gun owners in RI and obviously a healthy gun culture in RI, West MA, and rural New England.

  • another liberal gun owner
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Ijustlookedthatup t1_j7bpsiv wrote

I was trying for a little humor to broach the topic. The dramatic take is historical context, last to ratify the constitution for the bill of rights is what I meant. I understand the NE has a healthy and lively firearm culture. Many people I know from the south don’t realize the number of gun owners and enthusiasts that live here. Recently I had an elderly customer from Alabama talk to her friends about the “gun loving yankee” she met, she couldn’t believe it.

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pbNANDjelly t1_j7bt30v wrote

Thanks for clarifying ☺️ I'm a TX transplant and LOVE the gun culture here in RI and really enjoy being in an environment where multiple opinions can exist at once.

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PrinnySquad t1_j7d9ed1 wrote

Bit off topic from the thread, but do you have any range recommendations for people with these multiple opinions? I've been looking at potentially joining a club / membership range as opposed to just going to public ones, but am a bit worried about figuring out the culture at different places. If it doesn't require an NRA membership even better, but that seems pretty standard so I'm not holding out for it.

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Syncope7 t1_j7dil6p wrote

I have never heard of a range *requiring* that you are an NRA member. I went to Elite Indoor Gun Range in SK for a while and never was asked to become a member of the NRA.

Where do they do that?

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PrinnySquad t1_j7dovyn wrote

I’ll have to double check some of the ones I was looking at in RI. When I was living in MA every single private range and club in my radius included a mandatory NRA membership in order to join, at least in greater Boston. It was starting to crack due to everyone being dissatisfied with them at least. I don’t remember the names but I remember seeing a few places mentioned in the MAGuns Reddit that weren’t requiring, though none near enough to me.

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Syncope7 t1_j7duzz0 wrote

Huh. Yeah, doublecheck. I have never heard of that.

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Coincel_pro t1_j7fvazs wrote

The gun "clubs" require an NRA membership and usually a panel of whatever 65+ yr old boomers are members to decide if you are a "good fit" for the club after some probationary service period. This seemed pretty standard across the 5-6 diff clubs I looked into initially.

Having shot at several of the clubs during some pistol league competitions, I was not optimistic that someone openly gay/trans/ not white would have an easy time getting membership (totally an assumption, possibly an unfair one). Combine that with having to be an NRA member to enroll and I didn't bother.

Indoor ranges (not gun clubs) around the state don't force you to have an NRA membership. There is also the Great Swamp Range in S. Kingston area that is free, but its only open from April to late October. You have to submit some paperwork that is a bit slow so definitely get in there. It's a very nice outdoor range and often not crowded at all.

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TheGreyVicinity OP t1_j7bna6o wrote

Thank you! I’m not comfortable having a gun right now. I had one when I was with my ex and it ended up being put to my head.

My roommate is a piece of shit and turns out he has a DV conviction. I had a PI run a background check on him before I moved here but this didn’t come up for some reason… I’m very petite and weak, and based on my previous experience, it’s pretty easy to snatch a gun out of my hands and point it on me. Just don’t want to risk it.

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Ijustlookedthatup t1_j7bp3px wrote

Understandable, although I would argue the most effective defense weapon is one no one knows about. The time that it is necessary to use it is when it’s pulled. Please be safe and know that bankruptcy is temporary even if that’s what’s needed to get to safety. You have choices regardless of how difficult they may seem initially.

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Syncope7 t1_j7diq9x wrote

Pretty shitty PI if they couldn't uncover a DV charge. I would ask for a refund.

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[deleted] t1_j7ensuw wrote

This is smart. Most “self defense with a gun” is fantasy, and it’s more likely that a “concealed carrier” will get disarmed and shot with their own gun than use it to stop a criminal.

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SaltyNewEnglandCop t1_j7btyrc wrote

Having a license from any other state has standing in the state of RI.

Only a state of RI carry license will allow you to carry in RI.

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Ijustlookedthatup t1_j7buumt wrote

Correct, but you can apply for reciprocity based on that out of state license.

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SaltyNewEnglandCop t1_j7bvhne wrote

You sure can, you can also ask for a tax break from the department of taxation, doesn’t mean you’ll get it.

I’m not aware of anyone requesting and being granted reciprocity from any other state, especially a blanket license like Utah.

Hell, even people in CT and MA have to still apply for a license here, and it’s still held to the same standard, regardless of your status elsewhere.

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Ijustlookedthatup t1_j7bwum1 wrote

Well, it is a legal way to acquire a license in this state. Doesn’t even have to be your own home city department as long as you do business there. Any pro 2nd local chief has “shall issue” verbiage by law. The out of state license is to show compliance with safety standards and knowledge of CCW practice. Firearm safety isn’t rocket science and doesn’t needed to be treated as such. Reciprocity was the incorrect term to use.

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NoRepresentative5593 t1_j7crg1e wrote

I don’t know why you’re being downvoted. I live in the border of CT and it’s true, a CT license doesn’t transfer to RI.

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SaltyNewEnglandCop t1_j7crjob wrote

Because some people think they’re suave and know how to game the system.

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ELOFTW t1_j7cw6q3 wrote

I think some wires are being crossed here.

  • With an out-of-state license, you can apply to any town for a CCW. This isn't a sly workaround, it's how the law is written.

  • Without an out-of-state license, you can apply to the town in which you reside. Some towns are gun-friendly, others are not, some have waiting lists well over 6 months long.

So for some people, it's easier to get an out-of-state license first, then apply to the town of their choosing. This is a downstream effect of some police agencies failing or simply refusing to do a part of their job.

OP isn't saying that having a Utah license or whatever lets them concealed carry in RI, it just lets them start the process for a Rhode Island license with less fuss.

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Ijustlookedthatup t1_j7hlb6m wrote

This was an absolutely clear, concise, and correct version of my horrible explanation previously. Thanks!

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Ijustlookedthatup t1_j7dcuy9 wrote

I don’t believe jumping through bullsh*t hoops to express a constitutional right to be gaming the “system.”

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kyle_spectrum t1_j7dbsib wrote

You don't ger reciprocity. Having and out of state license allows you to go to any town in RI. This means you can go to a more 2a friendly town and get a permit.

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SaltyNewEnglandCop t1_j7i375q wrote

Under 11-47-11, you can only choose another town beyond the town you reside in if you have “bona fide business” in that town.

So you can’t cherry pick your towns like you cherry pick a doctor to give you Vicodin.

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kyle_spectrum t1_j7i4sgb wrote

Yes you can lol people are doing it through foster that don't live in foster. All you have to have is an out of state license.

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SaltyNewEnglandCop t1_j7if6i6 wrote

“license or permit to carry a pistol or revolver concealed upon his or her person issued by the authorities of any other state or subdivision of the United States, issue a license or permit to the person to carry concealed upon his or her person a pistol or revolver everywhere within this state for four (4) years from date of issue, if it appears that the applicant has good reason to fear an injury to his or her person or property or has any other proper reason for carrying a pistol or revolver, and that he or she is a suitable person to be so licensed”

And I can assure you, there aren’t a whole lot of people doing this out of Foster. And regardless of a permit elsewhere, you still need to show need here.

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glennjersey t1_j7c7p6s wrote

There's also r/RIguns for a more local take. I haven't seen much of a political split there other than the obvious anger and frustration with those in the statehouse in general.

Also better off just getting a NH license than a Utah one if your intention is to get a RI ccw, but of course get whatever level of training you need.

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Nevvermind183 t1_j7cj2x1 wrote

How would respecting and supporting the 2nd amendment be only a conservative issue?

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Ijustlookedthatup t1_j7codze wrote

I don’t think it is, but that’s the feeling I’ve gotten from many, many, people.

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kyle_spectrum t1_j7db10a wrote

Even easier get one through new hampshire not classes needed just $100 and a one she application

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