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ConquestOfPizzaTime t1_ja06n6l wrote

Reply to comment by Ijustlookedthatup in Help us take down slumlords! by MrArkAngel11

Capitalism and the state are the source of the problem and not a means to a solution. I wish it were that easy but it really isn't. this is the same thought process that Lenin used and we all know how that ended

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Ijustlookedthatup t1_ja079zi wrote

Well I do know that capitalism has singly increased the average age of expiration, quality of life, healthcare, than any other form of communal structure we’ve seen yet. So instead of burning down the house to fix a few rotted beams maybe support them then replace as needed.

I guess I’m too much of a realist to even consider any national restructuring of government with a population of ~330m people without massive bloodshed or natural disaster.

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ConquestOfPizzaTime t1_ja07td3 wrote

those accomplishments were made by society and the work of people as a whole and not by capitalism. by that same line of logic, marxist-leninism in the USSR was equally successful. This also has nothing to do with realism but go off.

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Ijustlookedthatup t1_ja09aus wrote

They were made by individuals and teams that would otherwise not have had the environment to do what they did. Otherwise it would have happened previously. Comparing the USSR and and their healthcare with the general quality of life of the west is example enough. Barring phage therapy the Soviet’s just didn’t have the drive to push the R&D that capitalism provided for healthcare alone.

If you truly believe the US could switch government types as you say then explain a possibly socioeconomic avenue for that to happen without the two factors I described previously.

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ConquestOfPizzaTime t1_ja0a3a1 wrote

that's not at all true. I'm not gonna go into a rant about the USSR and why they were very marginally different from the US but suffice it to say capitalism actually stifles research in the name of profitability. It's a matter of risk v reward where research that has limited or no short term potential for profit and commercialization is neglected almost completely. It's a huge problem in academia. I'm also not advocating a change in government types. I'm an anarchist. I advocate for self-direction, free association, and an end to the state.

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Ijustlookedthatup t1_ja0c4cf wrote

Well after 15 years on an ambulance I learned that limiting government resources where they’re needed has fatal consequences. That there a position for a limited government at the local level that includes healthcare and housing as a supported necessity. I doubt anarchy will help solve more human tragedy than create it.

Academia may have a problems, but thousands of people locally have serious problems. it’s not theory, it’s on every corner.

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ConquestOfPizzaTime t1_ja0hh1a wrote

The limit on medical resources is also a factor but I mentioned academia specifically because it was an example in a book I just finished. Privatization is an enemy of medicine and only makes EMT work harder due to budget cutting and costs of care.

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Ijustlookedthatup t1_ja0r9av wrote

I was municipal 911 paramedic and still saw it, so I’m not sure where private came in. In some cases private companies provide the only 911 service due to lack of government resources so that’s what would happen in an anarchical system.

If someone can’t explain to me in simple terms a 9 y/o can understand how this system and it’s problems would be solved effectively, then it has no possibility of becoming reality without force or major natural disaster. People wouldn’t adopt it or understand it, so it has no probability of becoming a reality. So to solve these problem working within the system is necessary.

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ConquestOfPizzaTime t1_ja0sl82 wrote

It can't be explained in 9 year old terms because the world is far more complex than that. And no, privatization wouldn't happen with anarchy cos there's no private property or corporations to privatize anything

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Ijustlookedthatup t1_ja0tmnu wrote

If you cannot explain relatively simply how you would even approach a problem then you don’t understand it enough to truly have a discussion on it. Even more so have a passionate conversation about it. You have to have some idea on the steps required or else it’s all academic, meaning theoretical and not in reality.

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