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glennjersey t1_je7ceof wrote

Be sure to remind the state legislature of this as they try to justify further firearm restrictions every legislative session; solving a problem that doesn't exist.

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degggendorf t1_je9kofl wrote

Yeah that's why I only put on my seat belt after I crash the car. I've had zero crashes! Why would I try to solve a problem that doesn't exist!

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HighPlainsDrifting t1_je7ko6c wrote

Yeah true. I wish they would focus that energy on something productive, like putting on-duty officers inside all schools. I honestly thought the total would be higher. 306 since 09. And im willing to bet over 95% of these are gang related with illegal firearms. 95% of those are pistols, not even rifles. The "assault weapon" debate is ridiculous on its face.

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sbaz86 t1_je7orzm wrote

You think 95% of these are “gang related with illegal firearms?” You have anything to back that up? I don’t, but I feel you are far from wrong.

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knob-turned-past-uhf t1_je8q06r wrote

Per a quick check on Wikipedia the answer is that most are suicides. This has been a long-time trend, that is well known, well studied and has had almost no action taken on it. In no small part because it is not a "sexy" political issue, nor is it something well represented in the news.

> n 2018, the most recent year for which data are available as of 2021, the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention's (CDC) National Center for Health Statistics reports 38,390 deaths by firearm, of which 24,432 were by suicide.

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sbaz86 t1_je96ory wrote

I’m sorry, but what the fuck does this have to do with what’s above. I see what you’re saying, most gun violence is actually suicide, okay. What we are discussing is that “95% of school shootings (school shootings is the main keyword here) are gang related with illegal firearms.” You didn’t bring anything relevant to that. Thanks for the suicide rate of gun deaths, but not even remotely close to what the discussion is about. Are 95% of school shootings gang related? Are 95% of school shootings with illegal firearms? From my understanding, and again I don’t have anything to back it up, just what I have gathered over the years from news outlets, is most of these are lone-wolf shooters who actually have legally owned guns. I want to see where this statistic is, not the suicide rate. Thanks anyhow.

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HighPlainsDrifting t1_je9n4vr wrote

I did not say 95% of school shootings are gang related. I said 95% of these 306 "mass shootings" are gang related.

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sbaz86 t1_jea8f4i wrote

Yes sir, I’m sorry, you’re correct. Still, I’d like to see the numbers on that. I disagree, I think gang members kill within their own “world”, these mass shootings to my knowledge aren’t gang members. I can’t really recall any of them being gang members actually. Sorry for the mistake earlier.

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HighPlainsDrifting t1_jeaanuw wrote

I dont know how to say it more clearly but you still don't seem to get it. "Mass shootings" are calculated by there being multiple victims. A lot of gang-related shootings are groups of people shooting at other groups of people, HENCE THEY ARE CALCULATED AS MASS SHOOTINGS.

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sbaz86 t1_jeafir1 wrote

Fuck? No, I do clearly understand the definition of mass shootings, and I still stand by what I said. As far as them shooting at groups of people, don’t act like any of them have great aim, they shoot way more shots than they catching bodies. Gangs usually find a person out of territory, or it’s a targeted hit, whatever it is, but I hear less “mass gang death shootouts” than I do other mass shootings. I bet most of these mass shootings are actually school shootings, churches, supermarkets, movie theaters, college campus, military base, etc, wherever, I think they’re more lone wolf style in public places, not gang related. That’s all I’m saying, and until I see numbers, that’s my opinion. I respected yours, I just disagree with it. Now, do you get it?

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sbaz86 t1_jeah8up wrote

Only thing I can find is “2/3 of all mass shootings are linked to domestic violence.” With that being said, I think that eliminates the 95% at the minimum.

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sbaz86 t1_jeahwec wrote

Lastly, 77% of all mass shootings used firearms that were purchased legally. Not gangs, not illegal firearms.

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Pleasant-Champion-14 t1_je7ob9i wrote

Gun violence is a serious problem in Rhode Island.

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deathsythe t1_je7p9mp wrote

*isn't

FTFY, because the FBI begs to differ

In 2019 (last publicly released data from what I can gather) we had 25 murders that whole year, and less than half of them of them were with firearms.

None of them were with rifles of any kind (contrary to the push for an "assault weapons ban" rifles quite literally are not a problem here) - more people were killed by knives (7), bludgeoning instruments (6), and hands and feet (2) than rifles of any kind, not just so called "assault weapons".

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