Submitted by SwagKing1011 t3_127wkim in RhodeIsland

I got an offer from a job in Pawtucket and I want to make sure that I'm able to live off at least $50K/yr. salary. I don't have any big bills the only thing I'm going to have to pay is housing. I would want to live alone and not with a roommate. I don't have no kids so it just will be me.

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Business-Impress4792 t1_jeg8bwr wrote

That’s about what I make in RI and I feel like I live pretty comfortably

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derpbeluga t1_jeg7bvu wrote

I guess it depends on your lifestyle. According to https://www.adp.com/resources/tools/calculators/salary-paycheck-calculator.aspx that will be about 3300 after taxes per month, less if money is taken out for health insurance/retirement. From what I see on Zillow you'd spend about 1500 on a 1 bedroom apartment, another 200 on electricity, then car payments and insurance (400????), cell phone (50??), and you'd have about 1150 left for food/clothes/stuff/fun/savings per month.

Can it be done? Absolutely! Will it be easy and relaxed? Not so sure...

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Sweet_Signature165 t1_jegcjnc wrote

He said he had no other big bills so safe to assume no car payment, probably just insurance or maybe he uses public transit now?

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SwagKing1011 OP t1_jege0wz wrote

My car is paid off so just a couple of hundreds for insurance and phone bill.

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cowperthwaite t1_jegol86 wrote

Expect your car insurance to increase. Not sure about living in Pawtucket, but when I moved, my insurance went up over $100/month.

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Vast-Celebration3322 t1_jegemqb wrote

I work and live in Pawtucket and make about 10k more, I own my house and pay about 2k on mortgage and bills every month, I live comfortably but in the winter my energy bills go way up. Depends on your lifestyle really

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[deleted] t1_jegp5k5 wrote

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pmk0286 t1_jegtzt1 wrote

Or he/she bought the house before prices went bonkers. My 3BR 2 Bath in East Bay was 1100 a month with taxes (with 20% down payment) when I purchased back in 2013.

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Locksmith-Pitiful t1_jegxtgl wrote

Op is asking about current prices, you're talking about prices over a decade ago

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pmk0286 t1_jegz5w4 wrote

Agree, much tougher now, was referring to u/vast-celebration3322 post

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Locksmith-Pitiful t1_jegzecl wrote

I guess.. not sure why they commented when the prices they're paying are out of date

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pmk0286 t1_jegzvbd wrote

If it’s any consolation, in 07/08/09 when I first started looking house prices also sucked..but there is sometimes a silver lining to economic downturns. For folks who can keep their powder dry and ride it out, the prices will continue to move downward if borrowing costs continue to rise.

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degggendorf t1_jeh3gm3 wrote

>show me a single instance of where you only need to pay 2k / month for a fucking reasonable house in Rhode island

I didn't downvote, but if I qualify: my mortgage including tax and insurance is $1,710.72 on a 2,700 SF 4 bed/3 bath.

It is so incredibly unfair to anyone who has to buy now over even just a few years ago like us. The house across the street from us that is comparable to ours (or if anything, worse) just sold for literally double what we bought ours for in 2018.

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Locksmith-Pitiful t1_jeh4136 wrote

>2018

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degggendorf t1_jeh43ii wrote

...yes?

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Locksmith-Pitiful t1_jeh46rx wrote

OP is asking about current prices. We're in 2023. You aren't finding a house for that price.

50k / yr salary will get you a dumpster behind McDonald's. Maybe.

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degggendorf t1_jeh4fuo wrote

You responded to a person saying their mortgage was 2k and said they must live in a shack, and asked for examples of non-shacks for that price. OP buying a house now is irrelevant to that point. It seems like you just forgot that people could buy things in the past, and now you're moving the goalposts rather than just admitting you were mistaken and being a jerk.

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Locksmith-Pitiful t1_jeh4kre wrote

It's not irrelevant. You don't respond in the first place claiming your house is 2k a month when you bought it years ago. The fuck? Am I going to go to threads asking about rent and say "it's affordable, I locked in 500 / month, 10 years ago"? What kind of logic is this lol

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degggendorf t1_jeh4xyo wrote

> You don't respond in the first place claiming your house is 2k a month when you bought it years ago

They were quantifying their housing spend so OP could take that into account. In no way were they saying that OP could buy a house with a $2k mortgage today. They didn't even make claims about affordability for OP, just laid out their situation for OP to judge.

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Locksmith-Pitiful t1_jeh5a4z wrote

I stand by what I just said. Not relevant to this time period.

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degggendorf t1_jeh5eoe wrote

What you said was:

> You must live in a shack wtf

Do you stand by that? Or do you now realize that it's possible to have bought something in the past?

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JackpotJooser t1_jegf8lp wrote

You’d have to be pretty frugal. I make just over 60K and I am barely getting by. Rent is high right now.

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bball33115 t1_jeg6pz7 wrote

Definitely. I’ve lived in a few different regions throughout the country. While housing is more expensive, other cost of living expenses aren’t too different IMO. Also, if you don’t mind a bit of a commute (1 HRish) there are a lot of job opportunities in the Boston area

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Sweet_Signature165 t1_jegc892 wrote

I just looked at 1BRs for rent in Pawtucket and they’re around $1,000-1,5000/mo so if it’s just you and no big bills, you absolutely can. That’s about $18k a year in rent. If you don’t have a huge grocery bill (we do have aldi here which is great!) the only other big bill you may have would be heating/cooling costs depending on the method where you rent. Many NE homes still have oil tanks. Totally doable and RI (New England in general) is an amazing place to live.

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vololov t1_jegs4l1 wrote

It's rare to see below 1,500 in my experience. (Just got a new rental for April).

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pmk0286 t1_jegtqnt wrote

ALDI for the win. Shopping here (and making coffee at home if you are someone who goes out for coffee daily) is an easy way to save a lot of money.

Same for cell phone/internet…check out T Mobile 5G internet, I sliced my bill in half. Was paying Cox 100 dollars a month just for internet, now paying only 50.

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degggendorf t1_jeh3xfk wrote

Right on with Aldi, it's so good that every other grocery store is ruined for me. Hard to find anything, and when I do find what I want I'm appalled by the price.

As for internet, FIOS has been great for us if it's available in your/OP's area. $39.99/month all-in for 300/300 MBIT up/down. Has never changed since we signed up like 3 years ago. Turns out, competition is good and when Verizon has to fight Cox and others, we win.

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pmk0286 t1_jeh5iib wrote

I live in an area where Cox was the only option for quite some time..no FioS yet but very happy with T mobile

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Allopathological t1_jegrg6a wrote

I make ~60 K per year as a resident doctor. After taxes it’s about 3.5 K per month and I pay about $1k /mo for rent. My car is paid off, not that I need it cause I can walk to the hospital from my apt. I get health and dental through my job. I have 200/mo going automatically into my retirement investment account with employer match. I spend probably $300-400 per month on food because I like to splurge on good ingredients to cook with.

Admittedly I don’t spend a lot of money on basically anything else as I don’t have time outside of work to spend the money so I’ve been able to put a few thousand in my savings account.

I definitely don’t live like a king but I don’t feel like I have problems affording the essentials and the occasional splurge purchase.

Definitely doable. But I couldn’t raise a family on this salary.

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badandbroken333 t1_jegx3lv wrote

I make 46k and rent 998/mo. Utilities are $80-$260 depending on time of year. My car is paid off. I only feed myself. No plans of children. I spend a bit here & there on entertainment and outings. I don’t go without but it’s definitely been hard to save this winter.

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FynnCobb t1_jegssn3 wrote

You won’t have a ton of extras, but you should be okay! One quick note: Pawtucket can be a cool town, and it can also be a bit less cool depending on where you rent. Be sure to visit the neighborhood - do not rent without looking at the place first

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Kelruss t1_jegji68 wrote

I think u/derpbeluga gave you a great breakdown of practical costs. Just for a statistical view (which I always find helps me put my own financial circumstances in perspective) the median household income in RI is $74,489 (according the 5-year average of the US Census Bureau's Annual Community Survey between 2017-2021). Meanwhile, households on average contain 2.46 people. So, you'll almost certainly be doing better than the majority of households with two or more people in RI.

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whatislife4 t1_jeh2bk1 wrote

Yeah. I have a condo in north Smithfield on around 58k a year. Just me and the cat. It’s doable.

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KemperTemper1 t1_jegmqnk wrote

You’ll live. Not well, but you’ll survive.

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Previous_Floor t1_jegqqsl wrote

You can do it but it's going to be a little tight. A rent increase could make it difficult.

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pmk0286 t1_jegtdqb wrote

This is certainly possible. Without any outstanding debt, the amount of money needed to live comfortably goes down significantly.

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Shot-Perspective2946 t1_jegwhx3 wrote

Kind of tough without knowing the alternative.

But yeah you can live in Rhode Island on 50-55k, that’s actually probably around the average income.

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SluggDaddy t1_jegyobr wrote

Yeah if you don’t insist on living in the highest COL areas of the state it’s very reasonable. I work in providence but the rents here in northern Ri are more reasonable and the competition for units less insane. If you insist on living in a 2 bedroom on the East Side then no, you will have a hard time affording to live here

Edit: fixed typo

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HunabJA t1_jegd1w3 wrote

I would say yes, specially if you do not want to fancy out your life. Your only have to keep an eye on your expenses if you eat out every day.

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LexExpress666 t1_jegperc wrote

Yes of course. Pawtucket isn't exactly Manhattan. The median income here is lower than that.

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Bronnakus t1_jegr6ur wrote

I mean I just recently started making slightly more than that, so yeah

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Vaublode t1_jegvbm1 wrote

50k is livable while living frugally. If you can find a way to not have to have a vehicle then it’s very doable.

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Major_Fang t1_jegcx09 wrote

Get a roommate and then probably

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noungning t1_jegg4iu wrote

I think it's doable without other bills. Considering that's probably what I made and paid for a mortgage but rent is even higher than my mortgage now lol. It'd be tight after utilities, gas, car insurance, and food but definitely doable.

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RivalSFx t1_jeh56si wrote

Your moving to Pawtucket aka The Bucket, from where and how much is you current salary?. Also, RI is small, why do you limit your residence choices to Pawtucket? Municipal job?

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Locksmith-Pitiful t1_jegycnz wrote

Maybe if you live in a shitty part of RI, don't drive, perhaps a roommate, no kids... 50k ain't much here, ya gonna live frugal af

I suggest posting in the Providence subreddit as most people here are generally out of touch with housing and rent prices... Amongst many other things.

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Desperate_Expert_952 t1_jeg958p wrote

Barely tbh

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Desperate_Expert_952 t1_jegoxs4 wrote

Down vote away poors. 50k if you are paying rent or a mortgage and have a car is barely getting by. It’s under $1000 a week pre-tax. So doing an average by month would be $4166 per-tax. Minus let’s say 18% or $750 for taxes effectively at the end of the year (obviously varies person to person based on deductions etc. leaves you with approximately $3416. $1500 for rent assuming you Got a good deal. $1916. Hopefully you didn’t overspend on a car but a below average payment would be $400 brings you to $1516. This is before any goodies like cellphone, streaming services, insurance, gas, food, Cable/internet, gym. Hopefully you are also saving at minimum 10% of your net but who knows.

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Locksmith-Pitiful t1_jegyirp wrote

I'm certain most people in this subreddit are well off. If he posted to the Providence subreddit asking about this state, the comments would have been opposite.

Upvoted you as you're correct. 50k is barely scraping by.

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