AbigailFlippinfloppn OP t1_itg8j6m wrote on October 23, 2022 at 12:40 PM

Reply to comment by Unique-Public-8594 in Why doesn't the state build housing? by AbigailFlippinfloppn

Both parties are liberal parties. I'm not singling out one over the other. When I say liberal all I mean is "non socialist"

Unique-Public-8594 t1_itg980h wrote on October 23, 2022 at 12:47 PM

“Both parties are liberal parties”.

You are flippin nuts.

The republicans have called themselves conservative (the opposite of liberal) since the beginning, 1854.

How can you not know this?

Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Republican_Party_(United_States)

Energeticlemon t1_itgo0t3 wrote on October 23, 2022 at 2:48 PM

All of American politics happen within a scale of liberalism. Most people just don’t know anything outside of American politics so they think they’re informed. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Liberalism

AbigailFlippinfloppn OP t1_itgdqd8 wrote on October 23, 2022 at 1:28 PM

You're confusing the progressive/socially liberal<->socially conservative CULTURAL axis with the liberal<->socialist ECOMINIC axis

Republicans are socially conservative but economically liberal. The founding fathers were liberals. Reagan Bush Clinton Bush Obama and Trump are all liberals.

dishwashersafe t1_itini14 wrote on October 23, 2022 at 10:37 PM

Maybe you're technically correct, but "liberal" in reference to anything US politics related has a different connotation. Trying to use it to reference the original ideals of liberalism in casual conversation about US politics will just be confusing. It won't make you look smart, just out-of-touch.

DecafEqualsDeath t1_itgrsoy wrote on October 23, 2022 at 3:15 PM

I don't really think that is a correct analysis of the political alignment. The GOP is becoming more nationalist and less "classically liberal" by the day.

The Democratic Party on the other hand, in the modern era, has always had some significant Keynesian/interventionist elements. What party do you think you have to thank for the Housing Act (aka OG Section 8) in the first place?

lazydictionary t1_ithf3dp wrote on October 23, 2022 at 5:53 PM

The FDR and LBJ party is not the same as the modern party. Modern democrats are owned by big business.

russsaa t1_iti8gme wrote on October 23, 2022 at 8:57 PM

Homie republicans are too. American politics is a battle of lobbyists

DecafEqualsDeath t1_ithz24l wrote on October 23, 2022 at 7:58 PM

This is just lazy. The Democratic Party is a big tent for better or worse and therefore has a variety of ideologies and positions in it. A public option, renewing the Child Tax Credit, a corporate minimum tax and free community college are WELL within the middle of the current party.