xlRadioActivelx t1_je1m2y0 wrote
Reply to comment by pebblebrusher in The reason you were born is to be productive & exploited your whole life, as a reward you're sold freedom in years that you wouldn't be a productive worker anyway. by KHUSTOM
The only point I was trying to make is the absurdity of complaining that you were born without your consent.
pebblebrusher t1_je1n9ui wrote
Yeah I totally agree there, bad framing from the other commenter
Apprehensive_Fuel873 t1_jeb6f9u wrote
Why is that absurd or bad framing?
pebblebrusher t1_jegawuz wrote
I mean, I agree with you, but it’s kinda meaningless to say we weren’t born with our consent. That’s true of every human ever, so like, what’s the point? I get where you were taking it and I agree with you on the topic, just kinda think there’s a better way to approach that argument
Apprehensive_Fuel873 t1_jeb6e69 wrote
Why is that absurd? I was. I would've preferred not to have been. Because now my options are struggle or suicide. And that's called coercion. When the choice is x or death, that's not a real choice.
xlRadioActivelx t1_jebckyc wrote
It’s not possible, and fundamentally never will be possible to ask for someone’s consent to being conceived, so it’s absurd to complain that nobody asked you. It’s like complaining that you have to breath oxygen in order to live.
Apprehensive_Fuel873 t1_jec3gk6 wrote
That assumes it's fine to exist. Why is it ok to force existence on a person?
xlRadioActivelx t1_jeccnrh wrote
Most people are happy existing. And most people can choose to not exist if they want.
But sure, get on your soapbox and tell the world it’s unfair to have children because you didn’t ask them if they wanted to exist. Good luck with that.
Apprehensive_Fuel873 t1_jeg3dsw wrote
>Most people are happy existing.
Why does that make it ok to force people into it with the alternative being suicide? Most people like bread, forcing someone to eat on pain of death is fucking evil.
Look, I get it, you're not able to think abstractly or beyond your immediate experiences, that's fine, it's ok to lack the brain power. But when you have that limitation, it's better to just shut the fuck up and not crop dust the world with your ignorance.
jack-of_most-trades t1_jeg4zuz wrote
Get help.
You’ve yet to offer even a hint of how you would have things work because you are complaining about things which are fundamental to the human condition and cannot be changed. You think you see things from a sage and complex perspective when really you’re whining about the facts of life that every well adjusted human has already accepted.
No one gives a singular fuck that you didn’t give consent to being born, no one wants to hear you complain about it either so stop wasting oxygen.
I sincerely hope you find a path to happiness but I’m not holding my breath, you are a miserable fuck who is content to wallow in self pity over that which cannot be changed.
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