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Yuna__707 t1_itz8fiv wrote

Reply to comment by TheAceofHearth in Most of society’s problems derive from people holding everyone else to higher standards than they hold themselves by Scatterbrained247365

To be fair…. We don’t know their intentions (or whether they’re genuine), and usually they have a justification or a certain mindset of how the things they do are justified but it doesn’t apply the same way in the perspective of others..

Judging anyone other than ourselves based on intention isn’t always accurate since we won’t quite understand what others think and whether or not it’s genuine.

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Gwanosh t1_itzip8l wrote

To be fair, most people can't or won't honestly analyze their own intentions most of the time

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Yuna__707 t1_itzj23j wrote

We’d like to believe we analyse it even if it is rather one sided. It’s not like anyone else is a better judge of anyone else’s intent since we all view it in our own ways..

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Gwanosh t1_itzk6hs wrote

I would argue someone who knows you well and is comfortable and close enough with/to you can make you realize intentions you didn't realize you had at times. Whether directly by seing them where you fail to or indirectly by giving you a different perspective.

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Yuna__707 t1_itzkr7l wrote

It’s not unbiased either tho, they likely have their own prejudices and are likely have similar views to their friend as close friends often have similar beliefs and perspectives.

Also they may try compromise in sharing their views harshly to spare their friendship.

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Gwanosh t1_itzm84p wrote

While all true, it doesn't invalidate that the reverse happens. We could argue percentages but it's ultimately futile.

I would generally agree that you're a better judge of your own intentions than others, but I would suggest that being open to the possibility that you misread your own intentions is critical to being better. My only observation, empirically, is that I see too many people either maliciously misrepresent their intentions or fail to perceive them. There's another pointless percentage discussion which is how often my own perception is wrong.

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Yuna__707 t1_itznt9w wrote

While you’re entirely right that our own perception of our intentions may be conceited or overlooked.

At the same time, other’s perception of our intentions aren’t necessarily unbiased and likely have their own prejudices and intentions.

It’s good to be open to other’s perspectives and the possibility of intentions being misinterpreted or misguided, failing to understand the inherent prejudices of others around you and viewing opinions as objective over subjective may further misguide your intent..

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doogle_126 t1_iu1vn4a wrote

And best to gather data from more then one person. Remember, if you about your day and meet and asshole, he's an asshole. If you go about your day and everyone is an asshole, you're the asshole.

We don't get to decide what society thinks of us. We can follow all the rules and still get slandered and ostracized.

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CrosseyedBilly t1_itzoagv wrote

Yea but judging yourself based on intention and not action is just being biased.

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Yuna__707 t1_itzouwv wrote

Why is action more biased than intention? Perspective of the causation or result of an action can be viewed differently. Some may say the action was helpful but others may entirely disagree, the same action provides for different reactions and views, isn’t it just as biased as the evaluation of intentions?

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xxtoejamfootballxx t1_iu0fgqf wrote

It’s biased because you are using different criteria for yourself vs others…

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Yuna__707 t1_iu0rcz4 wrote

In this case I’m not arguing against the idea that people judge themselves differently in comparison to others, yeah it’s likely true in general

But I’m saying that judging based on action is just as biased as intention, while a different basis for judgment is just as biased

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CrosseyedBilly t1_iu0osg1 wrote

I said the opposite also, basing how good of a person you are based on your intentions, not your outcome is biased.

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AdhesiveBullWhip t1_iu2f1mt wrote

Yeah that’s exactly what the guy above you said without all the unnecessary rambling.

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