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Mcash39 t1_j6h24k4 wrote

We are also one of the only to wield things, so showing that our hands are empty makes more sense than say a bear who would instead be showing their claws in the same position.

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IndianRedditor88 t1_j6hfg9m wrote

Our other Primates relatives also wield things but yeah not exactly like how we do

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MEMENARDO_DANK_VINCI t1_j6ipupg wrote

Having as little as a rock in your hands makes you a deadly weapon. This is why we open our hands.

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Spredda t1_j6k32zy wrote

This is going to depend largely on where exactly in my hand the rock is.

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MEMENARDO_DANK_VINCI t1_j6k3at8 wrote

Well you also gotta remember than when these speciated instincts and cultural norms were being instilled in us largely every human would know how to use a rock to defend themselves

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Spredda t1_j6k49cj wrote

Oh I just meant like if I had a rock literally in my hand I'd probably be more incapacitated than anything.

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DemonKing0524 t1_j6ltw82 wrote

The other commenters was suggesting people might use rocks as fist packers or as clubbing instruments. I've heard of people using lighters etc a small rock would work the same though for a fist packer. Using a rock in other ways to hit someone should be fairly self explanatory

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jordantask t1_j6kb5or wrote

The significance of the raised hands gesture is the ability to see an open palm. You can see that nothing is inside the open palm.

It’s also not terribly efficient for humans to attempt an empty handed strike against a person with a flat, open palm this way. Boxing teaches you to throw punches the way it does because it’s the most effective way to deliver energy to a target with empty hands.

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thecaramelbandit t1_j6i4mxz wrote

A human raising his spear/sword/hammer/gun/axe above his head is just as aggressive as a bear raising his claws.

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phunkydroid t1_j6isj6a wrote

Right but the gesture this post is about is about showing that our hands are empty, not holding up a weapon over our heads.

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Xeludon t1_j6iq043 wrote

Orangutans and chimps use spears.

Orangutans use spears to hunt fish.

Chimps wage wars against eachother. Full on wars, with designated battlegrounds.

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Awordofinterest t1_j6jcb08 wrote

>Orangutans and chimps use spears. >Orangutans use spears to hunt fish.

They do, Very poorly and with little success.

>Chimps wage wars against eachother. Full on wars, with designated battlegrounds.

Now this is interesting, When a group gets too large they split and often go to war with each other. Quite often they don't come to blows though, The key is how far they move from each other.

Imagine 5 years later, The new young adults come across another society they don't know. Well, now they go back to the group and make it known there are enemies nearby. Did the other group attack? They didn't need to, the fear of the unknown is enough. The elder chimps don't get a say due to the noise levels, and even if the elder chimps did try to put a stop to it, they would then be challenged as leaders, killed and overthrown, or shunned to an elderly life of solitude.

It really is interesting.

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Xeludon t1_j6jcnfa wrote

Whether or not they're successful, chimps and orangutans organising things and building tools is crazy, they're basically primitive people.

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Awordofinterest t1_j6jdfdy wrote

Oh most certainly. Just by watching they learn, and have shown to teach the skills they have watched and learned to the younger generation.

I think the best 1 to pin point this isn't the use of tools/weapons. But the use of soap.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bzx5zBNz_9A

Definitely doesn't seem the bar of soap will help with their foul language though.

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Xeludon t1_j6jdw04 wrote

They're incredible creatures, I wonder how long it'll be before they start to create and build things, maybe small huts, houses, shelters.

I'm fairly certain we could teach them how to build and they'd remember it and pass down the knowledge.

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Awordofinterest t1_j6jfyta wrote

Well they are already very good at building shelters, Orangutans, Gorillas, Chimps and Bonobos are well known to build nests in trees, but they also make use of overhanging tree branches and brush for shelter, and have been seen making their own canopies out of brush and leaves. Yes. They know how to deflect rain from overhead.

Orangutans have been seen using large leaves as umbrellas.

What scares me, that people will see what they can do, and attempt (Or reattempt, i'm sure it's been tried before) to enslave them in some way.

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Xeludon t1_j6jhch4 wrote

They already do;

https://metro.co.uk/2018/11/26/orangutan-was-shaved-made-to-wear-jewellery-and-used-as-a-prostitute-8179714/

I can't find any links but I'm pretty sure I heard of chimps and orangutans being used in factories, might not be true though.

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Awordofinterest t1_j6jj0lb wrote

Yea, maybe we should all be nuked.

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Xeludon t1_j6jjho9 wrote

It would be for the best, but tbh, the primates would just pick up where we left off.

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